From: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
To: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Dietmar Eggemann" <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
"Yuyang Du" <yuyang.du@intel.com>,
"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
"Mike Galbraith" <mgalbraith@suse.de>,
sgurrappadi@nvidia.com, "Koan-Sin Tan" <freedom.tan@mediatek.com>,
小林敬太 <keita.kobayashi.ym@renesas.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 10/13] sched/fair: Compute task/cpu utilization at wake-up more correctly
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 12:29:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160822112925.GC25262@e105550-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANRm+CxLiSy2JEohZ2iGNbg4kjJpR-5xS9dvzmxvoBHRHBJL_Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 09:48:19AM +0800, Wanpeng Li wrote:
> 2016-08-19 22:03 GMT+08:00 Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>:
> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 09:43:00AM +0800, Wanpeng Li wrote:
> >> 2016-08-18 21:45 GMT+08:00 Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>:
> >> > I assume you are referring to using task_util_peak() instead of
> >> > task_util() in wake_cap()?
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > The peak value should never exceed the util_avg accumulated by the task
> >> > last time it ran. So any spike has to be caused by the task accumulating
> >> > more utilization last time it ran. We don't know if it a spike or a more
> >>
> >> I see.
> >>
> >> > permanent change in behaviour, so we have to guess. So a spike on an
> >> > asymmetric system could cause us to disable wake affine in some
> >> > circumstances (either prev_cpu or waker cpu has to be low compute
> >> > capacity) for the following wake-up.
> >> >
> >> > SMP should be unaffected as we should bail out on the previous
> >> > condition.
> >>
> >> Why capacity_orig instead of capacity since it is checked each time
> >> wakeup and maybe rt class/interrupt have already occupied many cpu
> >> utilization.
> >
> > We could switch to capacity for this condition if we also change the
> > spare capacity evaluation in find_idlest_group() to do the same. It
> > would open up for SMP systems to take find_idlest_group() route if the
> > SD_BALANCE_WAKE flag is set.
> >
> > The reason why I have avoided capacity and used capacity_orig instead
> > is that in previous discussions about scheduling behaviour under
> > rt/dl/irq pressure it has been clear to me whether we want to move tasks
> > away from cpus with capacity < capacity_orig or not. The choice depends
> > on the use-case.
> >
> > In some cases taking rt/dl/irq pressure into account is more complicated
> > as we don't know the capacities available in a sched_group without
> > iterating over all the cpus. However, I don't think it would complicate
> > these patches. It is more a question whether everyone are happy with
> > additional conditions in their wake-up path. I guess we could make it a
> > sched_feature if people are interested?
> >
> > In short, I used capacity_orig to play it safe ;-)
>
> Actually you mixed capacity_orig and capacity when evaluating max spare cap.
Right, that is a mistake. Thanks for pointing that out :-)
Morten
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-22 11:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-25 13:34 [PATCH v3 00/13] sched: Clean-ups and asymmetric cpu capacity support Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] sched: Fix power to capacity renaming in comment Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] sched/fair: Consistent use of prev_cpu in wakeup path Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] sched/fair: Optimize find_idlest_cpu() when there is no choice Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] sched/core: Remove unnecessary null-pointer check Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-18 10:56 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/core: Remove unnecessary NULL-pointer check tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] sched: Introduce SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY sched_domain topology flag Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-15 10:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-15 11:43 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-18 10:56 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/core: Clarify SD_flags comment tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-17 8:42 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] sched: Introduce SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY sched_domain topology flag Wanpeng Li
2016-08-17 9:23 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-17 9:26 ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-18 10:56 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/core: " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] sched/core: Pass child domain into sd_init Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-18 10:57 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/core: Pass child domain into sd_init() tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] sched: Enable SD_BALANCE_WAKE for asymmetric capacity systems Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-18 10:57 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/core: " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] sched: Store maximum per-cpu capacity in root domain Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-01 18:53 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-08-16 12:24 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-08-18 10:58 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/core: Store maximum per-CPU " tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2016-07-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] sched/fair: Let asymmetric cpu configurations balance at wake-up Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-15 13:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-15 15:01 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-15 15:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-15 15:30 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-18 10:58 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Let asymmetric CPU " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] sched/fair: Compute task/cpu utilization at wake-up more correctly Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-15 14:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-15 15:42 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-18 8:40 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-18 10:24 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-18 11:46 ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-18 13:45 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-19 1:43 ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-19 14:03 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-22 1:48 ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-22 11:29 ` Morten Rasmussen [this message]
2016-07-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] sched/fair: Consider spare capacity in find_idlest_group() Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-16 13:57 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-08-18 11:16 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-18 12:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] sched: Add per-cpu min capacity to sched_group_capacity Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] sched/fair: Avoid pulling tasks from non-overloaded higher capacity groups Morten Rasmussen
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