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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	vlevenetz@mm-sol.com,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:03:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160823130308.GE4866@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160820052430.GA695@swordfish>

On Sat 2016-08-20 14:24:30, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (08/19/16 21:00), Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > depending on .config BUG() may never return back -- passing control
> > > > to do_exit(), so printk_deferred_exit() won't be executed. thus we
> > > > probably need to have a per-cpu variable that would indicate that
> > > > we are in deferred_bug. hm... but do we really need deferred BUG()
> > > > in the first place?
> > > 
> > > Good question. I am not aware of any BUG_ON() that would be called from
> > > wake_up_process() but it is hard to check everything.
> > > 
> > > A conservative approach would be to force synchronous printk from
> > > BUG_ON().
> > 
> > Just a quick thought: Cannot we just do printk_deferred_enter() when we are
> > about to call into the scheduler from printk code and printk_deferred_exit()
> > when leaving it? That would look like the least error-prone way how
> > handling this kind of recursion...
> 
> interesting idea.
> printk_deferred_enter() increments preempt count, so there may be additional
> obstacles and, as a result, ad-hocs, that scheduler people will sincerely hate.
> need to think more.

I wonder if this would be acceptable at least for
wake_up_process(). It seems to be the only scheduler function that we
are interested in. And we might call it from vprintk

> > OTOH there's also the other possible direction for the recursion when we
> > are in the scheduler, holding some scheduler locks, decide to WARN which
> > enters printk, that ends up calling wake_up_process() which deadlocks
> > on scheduler locks... I don't see how to handle this type of recursion
> > inside the printk code itself easily and so far the answer was - use
> > printk_deferred() in the scheduler and don't use WARN...
> 
> the recursion detection is really tricky, yes. it seems (and I haven't
> thought of it good enough) to be a bit simpler when we operate in async
> printk mode, because we remove this uncontrollable console_unlock().
> so we can do something like this:
> 
> vprintk_emit(....)
> {
> 	local_irq_save();
> 
> 	if (this_cpu_read(in_printk)) {
> 		log_store(BUG: printk recursion!");
> 		goto out;
> 	}

This does not quarantee that we have the logbug_lock. We might endup
here from the raw_spin_lock() call and the lock might be owned by
another CPU.

I am afraid that we could only set some global variable here.

> 
> 	this_cpu_write(in_printk) = 1;
> 
> 	raw_spin_lock(&logbuf_lock);
> 	log_store();
> 	raw_spin_unlock(&logbuf_lock);
> 
> 	if (!in_sched) {
> 		if (console_loglevel != CONSOLE_LOGLEVEL_MOTORMOUTH &&
> 				can_printk_async()) {
> 			printk_kthread_need_flush_console = true;
> 			wake_up_process(printk_kthread);
> 		}
> 	}
> 
> 	this_cpu_write(in_printk) = 0;
> out:
> 	local_irq_restore();
> }
>
> async printk mode from this point of view is sort of atomic.

This would prevent using printk_deferred() from the scheduler code.

A solution would be to set the per-CPU variable only around the
wake_up_process() call. Well, it is orthogonal to using
printk_deferred_enter() around calling wake_up_process().

Best Regards,
Petr

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-23 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-04 16:57 [PATCH v10 0/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-04 16:57 ` [PATCH v10 1/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-04 22:51   ` Andrew Morton
2016-04-05  5:17     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-05  7:39       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-06  0:19         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-06  8:27     ` Jan Kara
2016-04-07  9:48       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-07 12:08         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-07 13:15           ` Jan Kara
2016-08-10 21:17       ` Viresh Kumar
2016-08-12  9:44         ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-15 14:26           ` Vladislav Levenetz
2016-08-16  9:04             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-18  2:27           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-18  9:33             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-18  9:51               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-18 10:56                 ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-19  6:32                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-19  9:54                     ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-19 19:00                       ` Jan Kara
2016-08-20  5:24                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-22  4:15                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23 12:19                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-24  1:33                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-25 21:10                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-26  1:56                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-26  8:20                                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-30  9:29                                 ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-31  2:31                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-31  9:38                                     ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-31 12:52                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-01  8:58                                         ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-02  7:58                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-02 15:15                                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-06  7:16                                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23 13:03                           ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2016-08-23 13:48                         ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-04 16:57 ` [PATCH v10 2/2] printk: Make wake_up_klogd_work_func() async Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23  3:32 [PATCH v10 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Andreas Mohr

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