From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Nicholas Piggin <nicholas.piggin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Fix a race between rwsem and the scheduler
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:34:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160830183416.GV10138@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160830165746.GA29218@redhat.com>
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 06:57:47PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 08/30, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 03:04:27PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > But context switch should imply mb() we can rely on?
> >
> > Not sure it should, on x86 switch_mm does a CR3 write and that is
> > serializing, but switch_to() doesn't need to do anything iirc.
>
> Documentation/memory-barriers.txt says
>
> schedule() and similar imply full memory barriers.
>
> and I (wrongly?) interpreted this as if this is also true for 2
> different threadds.
I'm not actually sure it does. There is the comment from 8643cda549ca4
which explain the program order guarantees.
But I'm not sure who or what would simply a full smp_mb() when you call
schedule() -- I mean, its true on x86, but that's 'trivial'.
> I mean, I thought that the LOAD/STORE's done by some task can't
> be re-ordered with LOAD/STORE's done by another task which was
> running on the same CPU. Wrong?
If so, I'm not sure how :/
So smp_mb__before_spinlock() stops stores from @prev, and the ACQUIRE
from spin_lock(&rq->lock) stops both loads/stores from @next, but afaict
nothing stops the loads from @prev seeing stores from @next.
Also not sure this matters though, if they're threads in the same
process its a data race already and nobody cares. If they're not threads
in the same process, they're separated by address space and can't 'see'
each other anyway.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-30 18:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-30 8:49 Balbir Singh
2016-08-30 9:13 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-08-30 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30 13:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-30 14:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30 16:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-30 18:34 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-08-30 21:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-08-31 7:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 10:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-08-31 13:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 21:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-01 6:49 ` Balbir Singh
2016-09-01 6:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-01 14:17 ` Boqun Feng
2016-09-01 15:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30 21:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-08-31 7:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 10:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-08-31 3:41 ` Balbir Singh
2016-08-31 7:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 10:17 ` Balbir Singh
2016-08-31 10:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-01 1:48 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-09-01 12:16 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-08-30 12:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-31 3:25 ` Balbir Singh
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