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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	David Carrillo-Cisneros <davidcc@google.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Kan Liang <kan.liang@intel.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org" 
	<linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [tip:perf/core] perf/core: Check return value of the perf_event_read() IPI
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 10:33:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160902083338.GK10138@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPqkBSnOiqa51vvPG-QS=9vRaUDzdDZ8xSFVh=MJ9ROudvCUg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 09:26:18AM -0700, Stephane Eranian wrote:
> I am trying to understand this better.

> There is a race between oncpu/active and the smp_call.  By the time
> you actually do the smp_call the oncpu may be wrong and smp_call now
> returns an error given David's change.

> I suspect the race was always there. 

Me too, I might even have done it on purpose and then forgot about it.
Now cured with a comment.

> It boils down to what is the guarantee of the API in terms of the
> "freshness" of the value returned on read().  I am guessing that if
> you thought you had to do the smp_call, it is because the event was
> still active and oncpu != -1. 

> If it is no longer active, it happened very recently and, in that
> case, one can use the saved count in the perf_event struct as a valid
> value because it was necessarily updated when the event was scheduled
> out.

Almost, if its not active, its not counting. Therefore we don't care
about updates.

The other race, against sched_in(), is as you describe though, we can
observe ACTIVE && on_cpu==-1 or INACTIVE && on_cpu (due to lack of
ordering and serialization) but if we can observe that, the sched_in was
(very) recent and we still don't care because its the same as if the
read request happened slightly earlier etc..

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-02  8:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-17 20:55 [PATCH v3 0/4] remove unnecessary IPI reading uncore events David Carrillo-Cisneros
2016-08-17 20:55 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] perf/core: check return value of perf_event_read IPI David Carrillo-Cisneros
2016-08-18 10:52   ` [tip:perf/core] perf/core: Check return value of the perf_event_read() IPI tip-bot for David Carrillo-Cisneros
2016-08-21 12:10     ` Vegard Nossum
2016-08-22  7:17       ` Jiri Olsa
2016-08-22  8:29         ` Jiri Olsa
2016-08-22 10:38           ` Jiri Olsa
2016-08-28 18:09             ` Jiri Olsa
2016-08-29 10:03             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-29 13:02               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-29 13:14                 ` Vince Weaver
2016-08-29 18:58                 ` Jiri Olsa
2016-08-30  6:47                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30  7:26                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30  9:47                       ` Jiri Olsa
2016-08-30 16:26                 ` Stephane Eranian
2016-09-02  8:33                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-10-09  7:09   ` [lkp] [perf/core] 412929295f: WARNING: CPU: 2 PID: 600 at kernel/events/core.c:3530 perf_event_read+0x17d/0x190 kernel test robot
2016-08-17 20:55 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] perf/core: generalize event->group_flags David Carrillo-Cisneros
2016-08-18 10:53   ` [tip:perf/core] perf/core: Generalize event->group_flags tip-bot for David Carrillo-Cisneros
2016-08-17 20:55 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] perf/core: introduce PMU_EV_CAP_READ_ACTIVE_PKG David Carrillo-Cisneros
2016-08-18 10:54   ` [tip:perf/core] perf/core: Introduce PMU_EV_CAP_READ_ACTIVE_PKG tip-bot for David Carrillo-Cisneros
2016-08-17 20:55 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] perf/x86: use PMUEF_READ_CPU_PKG in uncore events David Carrillo-Cisneros
2016-08-18 10:54   ` [tip:perf/core] perf/x86: Use " tip-bot for David Carrillo-Cisneros

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