From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@linux.intel.com>,
USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Memory barrier needed with wake_up_process()?
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 02:07:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160903090716.GG3663@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1609021617520.2027-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 04:29:19PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Sep 2016, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 02:10:13PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > Paul, Peter, and Ingo:
> > >
> > > This must have come up before, but I don't know what was decided.
> > >
> > > Isn't it often true that a memory barrier is needed before a call to
> > > wake_up_process()? A typical scenario might look like this:
> > >
> > > CPU 0
> > > -----
> > > for (;;) {
> > > set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> > > if (signal_pending(current))
> > > break;
> > > if (wakeup_flag)
> > > break;
> > > schedule();
> > > }
> > > __set_current_state(TASK_RUNNING);
> > > wakeup_flag = 0;
> > >
> > >
> > > CPU 1
> > > -----
> > > wakeup_flag = 1;
> > > wake_up_process(my_task);
> > >
> > > The underlying pattern is:
> > >
> > > CPU 0 CPU 1
> > > ----- -----
> > > write current->state write wakeup_flag
> > > smp_mb();
> > > read wakeup_flag read my_task->state
> > >
> > > where set_current_state() does the write to current->state and
> > > automatically adds the smp_mb(), and wake_up_process() reads
> > > my_task->state to see whether the task needs to be woken up.
> > >
> > > The kerneldoc for wake_up_process() says that it has no implied memory
> > > barrier if it doesn't actually wake anything up. And even when it
> > > does, the implied barrier is only smp_wmb, not smp_mb.
> > >
> > > This is the so-called SB (Store Buffer) pattern, which is well known to
> > > require a full smp_mb on both sides. Since wake_up_process() doesn't
> > > include smp_mb(), isn't it correct that the caller must add it
> > > explicitly?
> > >
> > > In other words, shouldn't the code for CPU 1 really be:
> > >
> > > wakeup_flag = 1;
> > > smp_mb();
> > > wake_up_process(task);
> > >
> > > If my reasoning is correct, then why doesn't wake_up_process() include
> > > this memory barrier automatically, the way set_current_state() does?
> > > There could be an alternate version (__wake_up_process()) which omits
> > > the barrier, just like __set_current_state().
> >
> > A common case uses locking, in which case additional memory barriers
> > inside of the wait/wakeup functions are not needed. Any accesses made
> > while holding the lock before invoking the wakeup function (e.g.,
> > wake_up()) are guaranteed to be seen after acquiring that same
> > lock following return from the wait function (e.g., wait_event()).
> > In this case, adding barriers to the wait and wakeup functions would
> > just add overhead.
> >
> > But yes, this decision does mean that people using the wait/wakeup
> > functions without locking need to be more careful. Something like
> > this:
> >
> > /* prior accesses. */
> > smp_mb();
> > wakeup_flag = 1;
> > wake_up(...);
> >
> > And on the other task:
> >
> > wait_event(... wakeup_flag == 1 ...);
> > smp_mb();
> > /* The waker's prior accesses will be visible here. */
> >
> > Or am I missing your point?
>
> I'm afraid so. The code doesn't use wait_event(), in part because
> there's no wait_queue (since only one task is involved).
Ah, got it.
The required pattern should be very similar, however.
> But maybe there's another barrier which needs to be fixed. Felipe, can
> you check to see if received_cbw() is getting called in
> get_next_command(), and if so, what value it returns? Or is the
> preceding sleep_thread() the one that never wakes up?
>
> It could be that the smp_wmb() in wakeup_thread() needs to be smp_mb().
> The reason being that get_next_command() runs outside the protection of
> the spinlock.
This sounds very likely to me.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-03 9:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-02 18:10 Alan Stern
2016-09-02 18:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-09-02 20:29 ` Alan Stern
2016-09-03 9:07 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-09-03 12:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-03 14:26 ` Alan Stern
2016-09-03 14:49 ` Alan Stern
2016-09-05 8:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-05 15:29 ` Alan Stern
2016-09-06 11:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-06 11:43 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-06 11:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-06 12:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-06 14:46 ` Alan Stern
2016-09-06 15:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-07 10:12 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-09 10:36 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-09 16:12 ` Alan Stern
2016-09-19 11:11 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-19 17:35 ` Alan Stern
2016-09-20 10:12 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-20 12:53 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-20 14:40 ` Alan Stern
2017-01-16 11:12 ` Felipe Balbi
2017-01-16 17:09 ` Alan Stern
2017-01-16 19:04 ` Felipe Balbi
2017-01-16 19:19 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-02 19:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-02 20:16 ` Alan Stern
2016-09-02 22:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-02 22:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-05 9:43 ` Will Deacon
2016-09-06 11:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-02 22:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-03 6:58 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-03 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-03 13:51 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-05 8:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-03 14:16 ` Alan Stern
2016-09-05 8:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-05 14:33 ` Alan Stern
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