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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Brent DeGraaf <bdegraaf@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>,
	Timur Tabi <timur@codeaurora.org>,
	Nathan Lynch <nathan_lynch@mentor.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 21:05:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160930190535.GB3142@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1475257257-23072-1-git-send-email-bdegraaf@codeaurora.org>

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:40:57PM -0400, Brent DeGraaf wrote:
> Prior spinlock code solely used load-acquire and store-release
> semantics to ensure ordering of the spinlock lock and the area it
> protects. However, store-release semantics and ordinary stores do
> not protect against accesses to the protected area being observed
> prior to the access that locks the lock itself.
> 
> While the load-acquire and store-release ordering is sufficient
> when the spinlock routines themselves are strictly used, other
> kernel code that references the lock values directly (e.g. lockrefs)

Isn't the problem with lockref the fact that arch_spin_value_unlocked()
isn't a load-acquire, and therefore the CPU in question doesn't need to
observe the contents of the critical section etc..?

That is, wouldn't fixing arch_spin_value_unlocked() by making that an
smp_load_acquire() fix things much better?

> could observe changes to the area protected by the spinlock prior
> to observance of the lock itself being in a locked state, despite
> the fact that the spinlock logic itself is correct.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-30 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-30 17:40 Brent DeGraaf
2016-09-30 18:43 ` Robin Murphy
2016-10-01 15:45   ` bdegraaf
2016-09-30 18:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-30 19:05 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-10-01 15:59   ` bdegraaf
2016-09-30 19:32 ` Mark Rutland
2016-10-01 16:11   ` bdegraaf
2016-10-01 18:11     ` Mark Rutland
2016-10-03 19:20       ` bdegraaf
2016-10-04  6:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-04 10:12         ` Mark Rutland
2016-10-04 17:53           ` bdegraaf
2016-10-04 18:28             ` bdegraaf
2016-10-04 19:12             ` Mark Rutland
2016-10-05 14:55               ` bdegraaf
2016-10-05 15:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-05 15:30                   ` bdegraaf
2016-10-12 20:01                     ` bdegraaf
2016-10-13 11:02                       ` Will Deacon
2016-10-13 20:00                         ` bdegraaf
2016-10-14  0:24                           ` Mark Rutland
2016-10-05 15:11                 ` bdegraaf

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