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From: Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <srostedt@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Cesar Eduardo Barros <cesarb@cesarb.eti.br>,
	Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	ArnaldoCarva@x4
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/12] extarray: define helpers for arrays defined in linker scripts
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 13:11:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161102121158.GA11638@x4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161019102555.GJ3102@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 2016.10.19 at 12:25 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:33:41AM +0200, Richard Biener wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Oct 2016, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> > > This is also an entirely different class of optimizations than the whole
> > > pointer arithmetic is only valid inside an object thing.
> > 
> > Yes, it is not related to that.  I've opened 
> > https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=78035 to track an
> > inconsistency in that new optimization.
> > 
> > > The kernel very much relies on unbounded pointer arithmetic, including
> > > overflow. Sure, C language says its UB, but we know our memory layout,
> > > and it would be very helpful if we could define it.
> > 
> > It's well-defined and correctly handled if you do the arithmetic
> > in uintptr_t.  No need for knobs.
> 
> So why not extend that to the pointers themselves and be done with it?
> 
> In any case, so you're saying our:
> 
> #define RELOC_HIDE(ptr, off)						\
> ({									\
> 	unsigned long __ptr;						\
> 	__asm__ ("" : "=r"(__ptr) : "0"(ptr));				\
> 	(typeof(ptr)) (__ptr + (off));					\
> })
> 
> could be written like:
> 
> #define RELOC_HIDE(ptr, off)			\
> ({						\
> 	uintptr_t __ptr = (ptr);		\
> 	(typeof(ptr)) (__ptr + (off));		\
> })
> 
> Without laundering it through inline asm?
> 
> Is there any advantage to doing so?
> 
> But this still means we need to be aware of this and use these macros to
> launder our pointers.
> 
> Which gets us back to the issue that started this whole thread. We have
> code that now gets miscompiled, silently.
> 
> That is a bad situation. So we need to either avoid the miscompilation,
> or make it verbose.

FYI this issue was fixed on gcc trunk by:
https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=commitdiff;h=76bc343a2f1aa540e3f5c60e542586bb1ca0e032

-- 
Markus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-02 12:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-16 15:16 [PATCH 00/12] external array access helpers Vegard Nossum
2016-10-16 15:16 ` [PATCH 01/12] extarray: define helpers for arrays defined in linker scripts Vegard Nossum
2016-10-17  7:04   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-10-17  8:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-17  9:01     ` Jiri Slaby
2016-10-17  9:09       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-17 11:27         ` Vegard Nossum
2016-10-17 11:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18  8:08             ` Vegard Nossum
2016-10-18 21:18               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-19  8:18                 ` Richard Biener
2016-10-19  9:13                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-19  9:33                     ` Richard Biener
2016-10-19 10:25                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-19 11:11                         ` Richard Biener
2016-10-19 11:31                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-02 12:11                         ` Markus Trippelsdorf [this message]
2016-11-02 12:14                           ` Richard Biener
2016-11-02 15:02                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-19  7:16             ` Jiri Slaby
2016-10-16 15:16 ` [PATCH 02/12] firmware: declare {__start,__end}_builtin_fw as external array Vegard Nossum
2016-10-16 15:16 ` [PATCH 03/12] ftrace: declare __{start,stop}_mcount_loc " Vegard Nossum
2016-10-16 15:16 ` [PATCH 04/12] tracing: declare __{start,stop}_{annotated_,}branch_profile " Vegard Nossum
2016-10-16 15:16 ` [PATCH 05/12] kprobes: declare __{start,stop}_kprobe_blacklist " Vegard Nossum
2016-10-17  5:53   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2016-10-16 15:16 ` [PATCH 06/12] tracing: declare __{start,stop}_ftrace_events " Vegard Nossum
2016-10-16 15:16 ` [PATCH 07/12] tracing: declare __{start,stop}_ftrace_enum_maps " Vegard Nossum
2016-10-16 15:16 ` [PATCH 08/12] tracing: declare __trace_bprintk_fmt/__tracepoint_str as external arrays Vegard Nossum
2016-10-16 15:16 ` [PATCH 09/12] tracing: declare __{start,stop}_syscalls_metadata as external array Vegard Nossum
2016-10-16 15:16 ` [PATCH 10/12] serial_core: declare __earlycon_table{,_end} " Vegard Nossum
2016-10-16 15:16 ` [PATCH 11/12] jump_label: declare jump table " Vegard Nossum
2016-10-16 16:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-16 16:50     ` Vegard Nossum
2016-10-16 17:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-17 21:33       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-10-16 15:16 ` [PATCH 12/12] dynamic debug: declare " Vegard Nossum
2016-10-16 16:14 ` [PATCH 00/12] external array access helpers Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-10-16 17:05   ` Vegard Nossum
2016-10-17  7:02     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-10-17  6:26   ` Jiri Slaby

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