From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Milo Kim <woogyom.kim@gmail.com>,
gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, ming.lei@canonical.com,
daniel.wagner@bmw-carit.de, teg@jklm.no, mchehab@osg.samsung.com,
zajec5@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
markivx@codeaurora.org, stephen.boyd@linaro.org,
broonie@kernel.org, zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com, tiwai@suse.de,
johannes@sipsolutions.net, chunkeey@googlemail.com,
hauke@hauke-m.de, jwboyer@fedoraproject.org,
dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, dwmw2@infradead.org, jslaby@suse.com,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, luto@amacapital.net,
fengguang.wu@intel.com, rpurdie@rpsys.net,
j.anaszewski@samsung.com, Abhay_Salunke@dell.com,
Julia.Lawall@lip6.fr, Gilles.Muller@lip6.fr,
nicolas.palix@imag.fr, dhowells@redhat.com,
bjorn.andersson@linaro.org, arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com,
kvalo@codeaurora.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] firmware: add DECLARE_FW_CUSTOM_FALLBACK() annotation
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 17:14:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161216161455.GV13946@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161216161017.GU13946@wotan.suse.de>
On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 05:10:18PM +0100, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> Ah, well Milo Kim replied and described that the custom fallback is used as to
> help load LED effect manually, and suggested a sysfs interface is more ideal [0]. I
> agree however its also may be too late, and it depends how wide spread this "userspace"
> that relies on this is, we just can't break it. Granted the custom fallback
> mechanism was broken since v4.0 (see the fix "firmware: fix usermode helper
> fallback loading") so one may argue no one seems to care...
>
> So this is a judgement call, and the declaration is to point to documentation
> to white list uses, as terrible as this one is userspace exists for it. but
> more importantly to also help the SmPL grammar report to avoid reporting
> already vetted cases. The alarm / cases for the 2 drivers has been issueed,
> moving forward the lack of declaration with the custom fallback should trigger
> a rant through 0-day so we don't run into the same stupid situation.
>
> [0] https://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=148168024112445
Milo if sysfs is used can't the old userspace be mapped to use the new
sysfs interface through a wrapper of some sort ? What exactly would be
needed to ensure old userspace will not break? Why has no one cried
after the v4.0 custom fallback mechanism breaking ? How wide spread is
this custom userspace ?
Luis
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-12-16 16:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-13 3:08 [PATCH 0/5] firmware: doc revamp Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-13 3:08 ` [PATCH 1/5] selftests: firmware: only modprobe if driver is missing Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-13 3:08 ` [PATCH 2/5] selftests: firmware: send expected errors to /dev/null Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-13 3:08 ` [PATCH 3/5] firmware: revamp firmware documentation Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-13 7:26 ` Rafał Miłecki
2016-12-16 9:09 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-13 13:26 ` Daniel Wagner
2016-12-13 13:30 ` Rafał Miłecki
2016-12-16 9:18 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-16 9:34 ` Johannes Berg
2016-12-16 9:16 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-12 14:42 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] firmware: fw doc revamp follow up Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-12 14:42 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] firmware: add SmPL report for custom fallback mechanism Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-12 14:42 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] firmware: add DECLARE_FW_CUSTOM_FALLBACK() annotation Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-19 11:31 ` Greg KH
2017-01-19 16:08 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-19 16:14 ` Greg KH
2017-01-19 21:38 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-13 3:08 ` [PATCH 4/5] firmware: add SmPL report for custom fallback mechanism Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-13 6:13 ` Julia Lawall
2016-12-13 9:44 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-12-14 1:48 ` Milo Kim
2016-12-16 9:29 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-11 18:51 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-13 3:08 ` [PATCH 5/5] firmware: add DECLARE_FW_CUSTOM_FALLBACK() annotation Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-13 19:04 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-16 9:22 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-16 9:29 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-16 9:59 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-16 10:14 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-16 10:56 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-16 11:27 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-16 15:19 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-16 16:10 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-16 16:14 ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2016-12-18 3:50 ` Milo Kim
2016-12-19 20:08 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-19 20:46 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-12-21 18:49 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-21 20:33 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-12-15 9:32 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-12-16 9:26 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-13 12:58 ` [PATCH 0/5] firmware: doc revamp Daniel Wagner
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