From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Realtime queued spinlocks
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 10:55:18 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170104105518.680460cf@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57c0a6e1-1fab-b8d4-2a68-02cc1ebf7ce6@redhat.com>
On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 10:25:14 -0500
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> wrote:
> I know that in -RT kernel, all the non-raw spinlocks are replaced by
> rtmutex which is a sleeping lock. This can have a real performance
> impact on systems with more than a few cores. The rtmutex isn't fair either.
We do fine on 80+ CPUs. Is that enough cores for you ;-)
Note, it's not a true sleeping lock, because of the adaptive nature.
That is, it spins unless the owner of the lock is sleeping, in which
case, it too will sleep (why spin waiting for a task that isn't
running). But if the owner is running, it will spin too.
We also have tricks to keep normal preemption (like SCHED_OTHER tasks
running out of their time slot) when they have a lock. This keeps
contention down on tasks owning locks while sleeping.
>
> Do you think it is better to keep the raw spinlocks fair and only have
> the non-raw spinlocks use the RT version?
Yes.
Note, I also want to get rt_mutex into the kernel first for all sleeping
locks. That is, get the logic in before we convert spin_locks to
sleeping locks.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-04 15:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-03 18:00 Waiman Long
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] locking/spinlock: Remove the unused spin_lock_bh_nested API Waiman Long
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Introduce realtime queued spinlocks Waiman Long
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Use static RT priority when in interrupt context Waiman Long
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Override spin_lock_nested with special RT variants Waiman Long
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Handle priority boosting Waiman Long
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Voluntarily yield CPU when need_sched() Waiman Long
2017-01-04 10:07 ` Boqun Feng
2017-01-04 21:57 ` Waiman Long
2017-01-05 10:16 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Enable collection of event counts Waiman Long
2017-01-04 12:49 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Realtime queued spinlocks Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-04 15:25 ` Waiman Long
2017-01-04 15:55 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2017-01-04 20:02 ` Waiman Long
2017-01-05 18:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-01-05 9:26 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2017-01-05 9:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-05 15:55 ` Waiman Long
2017-01-05 16:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-05 17:07 ` Waiman Long
2017-01-05 18:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-01-05 19:24 ` Waiman Long
2017-01-05 18:05 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
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