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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	Marcel Selhorst <tpmdd@selhorst.net>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/4] tpm: migrate struct tpm_buf to struct tpm_chip
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 14:29:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170104122958.nlbprc6uk37xrcju@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170103191328.GB26706@obsidianresearch.com>

On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 12:13:28PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 02:57:37AM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 02:01:01PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 03:22:07PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > > Since there is only one thread using TPM chip at a time to transmit data
> > > > we can migrate struct tpm_buf to struct tpm_chip. This makes the use of
> > > > it more fail safe as the buffer is allocated from heap when the device
> > > > is created and not for every transaction.
> > > 
> > > Eh? What? I don't think that is the case..
> > > 
> > > We don't serialize until we hit tramsit_cmd at which point the buffer
> > > is already being used and cannot be shared between threads.
> > 
> > There is a regression in the patch. All functions that use 'tr_buf'
> > should take tpm_mutex first and use TPM_TRANSMIT_UNLOCKED. There's
> > also a similar regression in TPM space patch that I have to correct.
> 
> No, you can't steal TPM_TRANSMIT_UNLOCKED and tpm_mutex for this, that
> is to allow a chain of commands to execute atomicly, so a new lock is
> needed just for the tr_buf.
> 
> > > Why would the resource manager need a single global tpm buffer? That
> > > seems like a big regression from where we have been going. I don't
> > > think this is a good idea to go down this road.
> > 
> > What? 'tr_buf' is not specifically for resource manager. This commit
> > makes creating TPM commands more fail-safe because there is no need
> > to allocate page for every transmit.
> 
> That doesn't seem all that important, honestly. There kernel does not
> fail single page allocations without a lot of duress.
> 
> > For RM decorations this is really important because I rather would have
> > them fail as rarely as possible. If this would become a scalability
> > issue then the granularity could be reconsidered.
> 
> Why? The RM design already seems to have the prepare/commit/abort
> kind of model so it can already fail. What does it matter if the
> caller can fail before getting that far?

Yeah, I just noticed it :-) That kind of formed by accident when I
experimented with various models of rolling back in an error situation.

> It seems like alot of dangerous churn to introduce a new locking model
> without a really good reason...

OK, thanks for the feedback. I understad your arguments but as this
was an RFC patch set I don't want to go more details like these but
I take your advice seriously.

I'll start preparing the first non-RFC version. I'm happy that the beef
(i.e. the stuff in tpm2-space.c) has been well accepted!

> Jason

/Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-04 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-02 13:22 [PATCH RFC 0/4] RFC: in-kernel resource manager Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-02 13:22 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] tpm: migrate struct tpm_buf to struct tpm_chip Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-02 21:01   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-03  0:57     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-03 19:13       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-04 12:29         ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2017-01-02 13:22 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] tpm: validate TPM 2.0 commands Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]   ` <OF8D508BD2.EAB22BFD-ON0025809E.0062B40C-8525809E.006356C3@notes.na.collabserv.com>
2017-01-04 18:19     ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-01-04 18:44     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-02 13:22 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] tpm: export tpm2_flush_context_cmd Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-02 13:22 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] tpm: add the infrastructure for TPM space for TPM 2.0 Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-02 21:09   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-03  0:37     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-03 18:46       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-04 12:43         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-03 19:16       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-04 12:45         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]   ` <OF9C3EE9AE.65978870-ON0025809E.0061E7AF-8525809E.0061FFDA@notes.na.collabserv.com>
2017-01-09 22:11     ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-02 16:36 ` [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/4] RFC: in-kernel resource manager James Bottomley
2017-01-02 19:33   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-02 21:40     ` James Bottomley
2017-01-03  5:26       ` James Bottomley
2017-01-03 13:41         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-03 16:14           ` James Bottomley
2017-01-03 18:36             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-03 19:14               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-03 19:34                 ` James Bottomley
2017-01-03 21:54         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-04 12:58           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-04 16:55             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-04  5:47         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-04 13:00           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-03 13:51       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-03 16:36         ` James Bottomley
2017-01-03 18:40           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-03 21:47           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-03 22:21             ` Ken Goldman
2017-01-03 23:20               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-03 22:39             ` James Bottomley
2017-01-04  0:17               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-04  0:29                 ` James Bottomley
2017-01-04  0:56                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-04 12:50                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-04 14:53                   ` James Bottomley
2017-01-04 18:31                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-04 18:57                       ` James Bottomley
2017-01-04 19:24                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-04 12:48             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-03 21:32   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-03 22:03     ` James Bottomley
2017-01-05 15:52 ` Fuchs, Andreas
2017-01-05 17:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-05 18:06     ` James Bottomley
2017-01-06  8:43       ` Andreas Fuchs
2017-01-05 18:33     ` James Bottomley
2017-01-05 19:20       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-05 19:55         ` James Bottomley
2017-01-05 22:21           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-05 22:58             ` James Bottomley
2017-01-05 23:50               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-06  0:36                 ` James Bottomley
2017-01-06  8:59                   ` Andreas Fuchs
2017-01-06 19:10                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-06 19:02                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-10 19:03         ` Ken Goldman
2017-01-09 22:39   ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-11 10:03     ` Andreas Fuchs

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