From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [tpmdd-devel] [RFC] tpm2-space: add handling for global session exhaustion
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:40:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170120134042.yb75s3bgro7htvhk@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1484830744.3140.17.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 07:59:04AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-01-19 at 14:25 +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 03:48:09PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > In a TPM2, sessions can be globally exhausted once there are
> > > TPM_PT_ACTIVE_SESSION_MAX of them (even if they're all context
> > > saved).
> > > The Strategy for handling this is to keep a global count of all the
> > > sessions along with their creation time. Then if we see the TPM
> > > run
> > > out of sessions (via the TPM_RC_SESSION_HANDLES) we first wait for
> > > one
> > > to become free, but if it doesn't, we forcibly evict an existing
> > > one.
> > > The eviction strategy waits until the current command is repeated
> > > to
> > > evict the session which should guarantee there is an available
> > > slot.
> > >
> > > On the force eviction case, we make sure that the victim session is
> > > at
> > > least SESSION_TIMEOUT old (currently 2 seconds). The wait queue
> > > for
> > > session slots is a FIFO one, ensuring that once we run out of
> > > sessions, everyone will get a session in a bounded time and once
> > > they
> > > get one, they'll have SESSION_TIMEOUT to use it before it may be
> > > subject to eviction.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: James Bottomley <
> > > James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
> >
> > I didn't yet read the code properly. I'll do a more proper review
> > once I have v4 of my patch set together. This comment is solely
> > based on your commit message.
> >
> > I'm just thinking that do we need this complicated timeout stuff
> > or could you just kick a session out in LRU fashion as we run
> > out of them?
> >
> > Or one variation of what you are doing: couldn't the session that
> > needs a session handle to do something sleep for 2 seconds and then
> > take the oldest session? It would have essentially the same effect
> > but no waitqueue needed.
> >
> > Yeah, as I said, this is just commentary based on the description.
>
> If you don't have a wait queue you lose fairness in resource allocation
> on starvation. What happens is that you get RC_SESSION_HANDLES and
> sleep for 2s and retry. Meanwhile someone frees a session, then next
> user grabs it while you were sleeping and when you wake you still get
> RC_SESSION_HANDLES. I can basically DoS your process if I understand
> this. The only way to make the resource fairly allocated: i.e. the
> first person to sleep waiting for a session is the one who gets it when
> they wake is to make sure that you wake one waiter as soon as a free
> session comes in so probabalistically, they get the session. If you
> look, there are two mechanisms for ensuring fairness: one is the FIFO
> wait queue (probabalistic) and the other is the reserved session which
> really ensures it belongs to you when you wake (deterministic but
> expensive, so this is only activated on the penultimate go around).
>
> James
Right, I see your point.
/Jarkko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-20 13:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-18 20:48 James Bottomley
2017-01-19 12:25 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-19 12:41 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <o6gdhu$li$1@blaine.gmane.org>
2017-01-27 21:59 ` James Bottomley
2017-01-19 12:59 ` James Bottomley
2017-01-20 13:40 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
[not found] ` <o6gese$pev$1@blaine.gmane.org>
2017-01-27 22:04 ` James Bottomley
2017-01-27 23:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-27 23:48 ` James Bottomley
2017-01-30 0:52 ` Ken Goldman
2017-01-30 16:04 ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-01-30 21:58 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-30 22:13 ` James Bottomley
2017-01-31 13:31 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <o6qog0$30l$1@blaine.gmane.org>
2017-01-31 19:55 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-09 9:06 Dr. Greg Wettstein
2017-02-09 15:19 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-09 19:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-09 19:29 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-09 21:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-10 8:48 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-09 19:24 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-09 20:05 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-10 10:03 Dr. Greg Wettstein
2017-02-10 16:46 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-12 20:29 ` Ken Goldman
[not found] ` <OFA049276F.2B32440E-ON852580C3.00742287-852580C3.00748E6B@notes.na.collabserv.com>
2017-02-14 14:38 ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
2017-02-14 16:47 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <71dc0e80-6678-a124-9184-1f93c8532d09@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2017-02-16 20:06 ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
2017-02-16 20:33 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-17 9:56 ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
2017-02-17 12:37 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-17 22:37 ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
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