From: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Chen <peter.chen@nxp.com>
Cc: Peter Chen <hzpeterchen@gmail.com>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@linux.intel.com>,
Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>, Jun Li <jun.li@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v17 2/3] usb: USB Type-C connector class
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:57:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170307085753.GF6999@kuha.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR04MB1450230528B5C0B88235E6E08B2F0@HE1PR04MB1450.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 01:36:29AM +0000, Peter Chen wrote:
> >On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 09:15:51AM +0800, Peter Chen wrote:
> >> > > What interface you use when you receive this event to handle
> >> > > dual-role switch? I am wonder if a common dual-role class is
> >> > > needed, then we can have a common user utility.
> >> > >
> >> > > Eg, if "data_role" has changed, the udev can echo "data_role" to
> >> > > /sys/class/usb-dual-role/role
> >> >
> >> > No. If the partner executes successfully for example DR_Swap
> >> > message, the kernel has to take care everything that is needed for
> >> > the role to be what ever was negotiated on its own. User space can't
> >> > be involved with that.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Would you give me an example how kernel handle this? How type-C event
> >> triggers role switch?
> >
> >On our boards, the firmware or EC (or ACPI) configures the hardware as needed
> >and also notifies the components using ACPI if needed. It's often not even possible to
> >directly configure the components/hardware for a particular role.
> >
>
> You mean type-C trigger an ACPI event, and this ACPI event can notify related
> USB controller driver doing role switch?
No (firmware programs the dual-role hw/registers), but never mind.
That could be the case.
> If it is correct, there is a notifier between type-C
> and USB controller driver, how to define this notifier for non-ACPI platform?
Once there is a platform with Type-C like that, the problem needs to
be solved. However..
> >I'm not commenting on Roger's dual role patch series, but I don't really think it should
> >be mixed with Type-C. USB Type-C and USB Power Delivery define their own ways
> >of handling the roles, and they are not limited to the data role only. Things like OTG
> >for example will, and actually can not be supported. With Type-C we will have
> >competing state machines compared to OTG. The dual-role framework may be
> >useful on systems that provide more traditional connectors, which possibly have the
> >ID-pin like micro-AB, and possibly also support OTG. It can also be something that
> >exist in parallel with the Type-C class, but there just can not be any dependencies
> >between the two.
> >
>
> Yes, there are two independent things. But if the kernel doesn't have a notifier between
> type-C message sender (type-c class) and message receiver (like USB controller driver
> for role switch or other drivers for alternate mode message), we had to find some ways at
> userspace.
..what ever the solution is, it really can't rely on user space.
Thanks,
--
heikki
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-07 10:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-21 14:24 [PATCH v17 0/3] USB Type-C Connector class Heikki Krogerus
2017-02-21 14:24 ` [PATCH v17 1/3] lib/string: add sysfs_match_string helper Heikki Krogerus
2017-02-21 14:24 ` [PATCH v17 2/3] usb: USB Type-C connector class Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-02 15:22 ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-03 3:13 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-03 7:29 ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-03 9:48 ` Enric Balletbo Serra
2017-03-03 12:59 ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-03 14:49 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-03 19:27 ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-06 9:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2017-03-06 13:14 ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-07 22:30 ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-08 1:38 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-08 23:09 ` USB Type-C Port Manager API concern Mats Karrman
2017-04-09 15:16 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-09 21:05 ` Mats Karrman
2017-04-14 2:57 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-14 8:30 ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-08 13:58 ` [PATCH v17 2/3] usb: USB Type-C connector class Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-10 22:22 ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-10 23:41 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-18 18:52 ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-19 11:23 ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-04-19 14:45 ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-19 15:14 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-19 17:22 ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-19 19:29 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-20 12:24 ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-04-20 19:46 ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-21 12:12 ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-04-21 13:14 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-21 14:27 ` Rajaram R
2017-04-21 16:43 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-22 9:23 ` Rajaram R
2017-04-24 17:50 ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-25 8:26 ` Rajaram R
2017-04-25 14:10 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-27 6:20 ` Rajaram R
2017-04-27 18:10 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-28 10:52 ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-04-20 11:55 ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-03 14:41 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-03 3:35 ` Peter Chen
2017-03-03 4:29 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-03 4:52 ` Peter Chen
2017-03-03 14:36 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-06 1:24 ` Peter Chen
2017-03-03 14:31 ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-06 1:15 ` Peter Chen
2017-03-06 13:16 ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-07 1:36 ` Peter Chen
2017-03-07 8:57 ` Heikki Krogerus [this message]
2017-03-08 1:53 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-08 6:50 ` Peter Chen
2017-03-08 14:44 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-09 2:00 ` Peter Chen
2017-02-21 14:24 ` [PATCH v17 3/3] usb: typec: add driver for Intel Whiskey Cove PMIC USB Type-C PHY Heikki Krogerus
2017-02-21 15:42 ` [PATCH v17 0/3] USB Type-C Connector class Felipe Balbi
2017-03-21 11:14 ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-21 10:23 ` Greg KH
2017-03-21 10:37 ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-22 21:15 ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-23 8:16 ` Heikki Krogerus
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