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From: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Chen <peter.chen@nxp.com>
Cc: Peter Chen <hzpeterchen@gmail.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@linux.intel.com>,
	Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>, Jun Li <jun.li@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v17 2/3] usb: USB Type-C connector class
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:57:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170307085753.GF6999@kuha.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR04MB1450230528B5C0B88235E6E08B2F0@HE1PR04MB1450.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 01:36:29AM +0000, Peter Chen wrote:
> >On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 09:15:51AM +0800, Peter Chen wrote:
> >> > > What interface you use when you receive this event to handle
> >> > > dual-role switch? I am wonder if a common dual-role class is
> >> > > needed, then we can have a common user utility.
> >> > >
> >> > > Eg, if "data_role" has changed, the udev can echo "data_role" to
> >> > > /sys/class/usb-dual-role/role
> >> >
> >> > No. If the partner executes successfully for example DR_Swap
> >> > message, the kernel has to take care everything that is needed for
> >> > the role to be what ever was negotiated on its own. User space can't
> >> > be involved with that.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Would you give me an example how kernel handle this? How type-C event
> >> triggers role switch?
> >
> >On our boards, the firmware or EC (or ACPI) configures the hardware as needed
> >and also notifies the components using ACPI if needed. It's often not even possible to
> >directly configure the components/hardware for a particular role.
> >
> 
> You mean type-C trigger an ACPI event, and this ACPI event can notify related
> USB controller driver doing role switch?

No (firmware programs the dual-role hw/registers), but never mind.
That could be the case.

> If it is correct, there is a notifier between type-C
> and USB controller driver, how to define this notifier for non-ACPI platform? 

Once there is a platform with Type-C like that, the problem needs to
be solved. However..

> >I'm not commenting on Roger's dual role patch series, but I don't really think it should
> >be mixed with Type-C. USB Type-C and USB Power Delivery define their own ways
> >of handling the roles, and they are not limited to the data role only. Things like OTG
> >for example will, and actually can not be supported. With Type-C we will have
> >competing state machines compared to OTG. The dual-role framework may be
> >useful on systems that provide more traditional connectors, which possibly have the
> >ID-pin like micro-AB, and possibly also support OTG. It can also be something that
> >exist in parallel with the Type-C class, but there just can not be any dependencies
> >between the two.
> >
> 
> Yes, there are two independent things. But if the kernel doesn't have a notifier between
> type-C message sender (type-c class) and message receiver (like USB controller driver
> for role switch or other drivers for alternate mode message), we had to find some ways at
> userspace.

..what ever the solution is, it really can't rely on user space.


Thanks,

-- 
heikki

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-07 10:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-21 14:24 [PATCH v17 0/3] USB Type-C Connector class Heikki Krogerus
2017-02-21 14:24 ` [PATCH v17 1/3] lib/string: add sysfs_match_string helper Heikki Krogerus
2017-02-21 14:24 ` [PATCH v17 2/3] usb: USB Type-C connector class Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-02 15:22   ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-03  3:13     ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-03  7:29       ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-03  9:48         ` Enric Balletbo Serra
2017-03-03 12:59         ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-03 14:49           ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-03 19:27           ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-06  9:37             ` Oliver Neukum
2017-03-06 13:14             ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-07 22:30               ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-08  1:38                 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-08 23:09                   ` USB Type-C Port Manager API concern Mats Karrman
2017-04-09 15:16                     ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-09 21:05                       ` Mats Karrman
2017-04-14  2:57                         ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-14  8:30                           ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-08 13:58                 ` [PATCH v17 2/3] usb: USB Type-C connector class Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-10 22:22                   ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-10 23:41                     ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-18 18:52                       ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-19 11:23                         ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-04-19 14:45                           ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-19 15:14                             ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-19 17:22                               ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-19 19:29                                 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-20 12:24                                 ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-04-20 19:46                                   ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-21 12:12                                     ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-04-21 13:14                                       ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-21 14:27                                     ` Rajaram R
2017-04-21 16:43                                       ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-22  9:23                                         ` Rajaram R
2017-04-24 17:50                                           ` Badhri Jagan Sridharan
2017-04-25  8:26                                             ` Rajaram R
2017-04-25 14:10                                               ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-27  6:20                                                 ` Rajaram R
2017-04-27 18:10                                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-28 10:52                                                     ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-04-20 11:55                             ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-03 14:41         ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-03  3:35   ` Peter Chen
2017-03-03  4:29     ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-03  4:52       ` Peter Chen
2017-03-03 14:36         ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-06  1:24           ` Peter Chen
2017-03-03 14:31     ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-06  1:15       ` Peter Chen
2017-03-06 13:16         ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-07  1:36           ` Peter Chen
2017-03-07  8:57             ` Heikki Krogerus [this message]
2017-03-08  1:53               ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-08  6:50                 ` Peter Chen
2017-03-08 14:44                   ` Guenter Roeck
2017-03-09  2:00                     ` Peter Chen
2017-02-21 14:24 ` [PATCH v17 3/3] usb: typec: add driver for Intel Whiskey Cove PMIC USB Type-C PHY Heikki Krogerus
2017-02-21 15:42 ` [PATCH v17 0/3] USB Type-C Connector class Felipe Balbi
2017-03-21 11:14   ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-21 10:23 ` Greg KH
2017-03-21 10:37   ` Heikki Krogerus
2017-03-22 21:15     ` Mats Karrman
2017-03-23  8:16       ` Heikki Krogerus

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