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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>, "Filip Štědronský" <r.lklm@regnarg.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] fanotify: new event FAN_MODIFY_DIR
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:38:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170316103859.GR12989@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxjxbQsnhC39Swz3iy64fN755mjSqsws20BJvpmcU5tJ5w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed 15-03-17 16:34:11, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> >> So the string fields in my proposal are optional.
> >> userspace opts-in to get them by specifying the  FAN_EVENT_INFO_NAME flag:
> >>
> >>     fanotify_init(FAN_CLOEXEC | FAN_CLASS_NOTIF |
> >>                        FAN_EVENT_INFO_PARENT | FAN_EVENT_INFO_NAME,
> >>
> >> If you don't specify FAN_EVENT_INFO_NAME, you can get filename events
> >> FAN_MOVE|FAN_CREATE|FAN_DELETE without the name.
> >
> > So when thinking about this again, I'm again concerned that the names need
> > not tell userspace what it thinks. I know we already discussed this but
> > in our last discussion I think I forgot to point out that inotify directory
> > events (and fanotify would be the same AFAICT) may come out of order compared
> > to real filesystem changes. E.g. sequence:
> >
> > Task 1          Task 2
> >
> > mv a b
> >                 mv b c
> >
> > may come out of inotify as:
> >
> > IN_MOVED_FROM "b" COOKIE 1
> > IN_MOVED_TO   "c" COOKIE 1
> > IN_MOVED_FROM "a" COOKIE 2
> > IN_MOVED_TO   "b" COOKIE 2
> >
> 
> Really? How come?
> 
> fsnotify_move() inside vfs_rename() is serialized with lock_rename()

Sorry, I got confused by the unlocking in vfs_rename() however that unlocks
only the moved file / directory but not the directory in which the rename
is happening. Taking my objection back.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-16 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-13 23:02 Filip Štědronský
2017-03-13 23:03 ` [RFC 2/2] fanotify: emit FAN_MODIFY_DIR on filesystem changes Filip Štědronský
2017-03-14 11:18   ` Amir Goldstein
2017-03-14 14:58     ` Filip Štědronský
2017-03-14 15:35       ` Amir Goldstein
2017-03-15  8:19       ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-03-15 13:39         ` Jan Kara
2017-03-15 14:18           ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-03-15 14:44           ` Amir Goldstein
2017-03-19 10:19     ` Jan Kara
2017-03-19 10:37       ` Filip Štědronský
2017-03-19 18:04         ` Jan Kara
2017-03-20 11:40           ` Amir Goldstein
2017-03-20 11:52           ` Filip Štědronský
2017-03-21 15:38       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-21 16:41         ` Jan Kara
2017-03-21 17:45           ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-13 23:16 ` [RFC 1/2] fanotify: new event FAN_MODIFY_DIR Filip Štědronský
2017-03-14 10:40   ` Amir Goldstein
2017-03-14 13:46     ` Filip Štědronský
2017-03-14 15:07       ` Amir Goldstein
2017-03-20 12:10       ` Amir Goldstein
2017-03-14 10:11 ` Amir Goldstein
2017-03-14 12:41   ` Filip Štědronský
2017-03-14 13:55     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-03-14 14:48       ` Filip Štědronský
2017-03-14 22:30         ` Amir Goldstein
2017-03-15 14:05   ` Jan Kara
2017-03-15 14:34     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-03-16 10:38       ` Jan Kara [this message]
2017-03-15  4:52 ` Michael Kerrisk

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