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From: Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Matt Brown <matt@nmatt.com>
Cc: serge@hallyn.com, jmorris@namei.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	jslaby@suse.com, corbet@lwn.net, keescook@chromium.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, jannh@google.com,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/2] security: tty: make TIOCSTI ioctl require CAP_SYS_ADMIN
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:47:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170425144746.0d8721a3@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170425041512.13189-1-matt@nmatt.com>

> There could be a few user programs that would be effected by this
> change.
> See: <https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=ioctl%5C%28.*TIOCSTI>
> notable programs are: agetty, csh, xemacs and tcsh
> 
> However, I still believe that this change is worth it given that the
> Kconfig defaults to n. This will be a feature that is turned on for the
> same reason that people activate it when using grsecurity. Users of this
> opt-in feature will realize that they are choosing security over some OS
> features 

Only in this case they are not.

If I am at the point I have the ability to send you TIOCSTI you already
lost because I can just open /dev/tty to get access to my controlling tty
and use write().

Alan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-25 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-25  4:15 Matt Brown
2017-04-25  4:15 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] security: tty: Add owner user namespace to tty_struct Matt Brown
2017-04-25  4:15 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] security: tty: make TIOCSTI ioctl require CAP_SYS_ADMIN Matt Brown
2017-04-25 13:47 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2017-04-25 13:56   ` [PATCH v5 0/2] " Jann Horn
2017-04-25 19:30     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2017-04-25 20:06       ` Jann Horn
2017-04-25 21:21         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2017-04-25 21:44           ` Jann Horn
2017-04-26 12:47             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2017-04-26 14:21               ` Matt Brown
2017-04-27 12:34                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2017-05-03 19:30 ` Kees Cook

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