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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Kyle McMartin <kyle@kernel.org>,
	Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>,
	postmaster@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Wagner <wagi@monom.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Arend Van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Li, Yi" <yi1.li@linux.intel.com>,
	atull@kernel.org, Moritz Fischer <moritz.fischer@ettus.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes.berg@intel.com>,
	Emmanuel Grumbach <emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com>,
	Luciano Coelho <luciano.coelho@intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"AKASHI, Takahiro" <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>, Tom Gundersen <teg@jklm.no>
Subject: Re: New vger mailing list request - linux-firmware
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 22:38:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170608203851.GQ27288@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170608203153.GA23191@kroah.com>

On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 10:31:53PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 01:25:17PM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Linus Torvalds
> > <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Do users deserve the amount of silly regressions and issues we've seen
> > >> over the years on firmware_class ? Would yet-another mailing list help
> > >> ? I think so.
> > >
> > > No.
> > >
> > > Boutique mailing lists are generally a _bad_ thing. All it means that
> > > there's an increasingly small "in group" that thinks that they
> > > generate consensus beause nobody disagrees with their small boutique
> > > list, because nobody else even _sees_ that small list.
> > >
> > > We should only have mailing lists if they really merit the volume, and
> > > are big enough that there are lots of users.
> > 
> > Even many device drivers tend to have mailing lists. While I see the
> > "in group" thing being a bad thing, I would say a few folks would be a
> > bit disturbed if they were requested to subscribe and read lkml to get
> > their driver updates they need to review. Its not clear to me where
> > the distinction should be made though. I tend to agree perhaps a
> > *vger* mailing list is not in merit for firmware_class, its not
> > obvious to me say an infradead.org list might not be in order.
> 
> This is infrastructure that drivers use, not something huge and big that
> warrents a whole separate mailing list.  Come on now, it's not that big
> of a chunk of code, no matter how complex the beast might be :)

Alright, I'll keep CC'ing tons of you then !

I'd also appreciate if those contributing will also try CC those in this email
except David Miller of course, our benevolent postmaster.

  Luis

      reply	other threads:[~2017-06-08 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-07 21:22 Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-08 11:53 ` Kalle Valo
2017-06-08 16:19   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-08 18:09     ` David Miller
2017-06-08 19:06       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-08 19:39         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-06-08 20:11           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-08 20:19             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-08 20:25               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-08 20:31                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-06-08 20:38                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]

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