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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Cc: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Masami Ichikawa <masami256@gmail.com>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, lkp@01.org,
	xiaolong.ye@intel.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] Introduce v3 namespaced file capabilities
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 18:50:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170613235025.GB15685@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170613234214.GA15685@mail.hallyn.com>

Quoting Serge E. Hallyn (serge@hallyn.com):
> Quoting Stefan Berger (stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com):
> > On 05/08/2017 02:11 PM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > >Root in a non-initial user ns cannot be trusted to write a traditional
> > >security.capability xattr.  If it were allowed to do so, then any
> > >unprivileged user on the host could map his own uid to root in a private
> > >namespace, write the xattr, and execute the file with privilege on the
> > >host.
> > >
> > >However supporting file capabilities in a user namespace is very
> > >desirable.  Not doing so means that any programs designed to run with
> > >limited privilege must continue to support other methods of gaining and
> > >dropping privilege.  For instance a program installer must detect
> > >whether file capabilities can be assigned, and assign them if so but set
> > >setuid-root otherwise.  The program in turn must know how to drop
> > >partial capabilities, and do so only if setuid-root.
> > 
> > Hi Serge,
> > 
> > 
> >   I have been looking at patch below primarily to learn how we could
> > apply a similar technique to security.ima and security.evm for a
> > namespaced IMA. From the paragraphs above I thought that you solved
> > the problem of a shared filesystem where one now can write different
> > security.capability xattrs by effectively supporting for example
> > security.capability[uid=1000] and security.capability[uid=2000]
> 
> Interesting idea.  Worth considering.
> 
> > written into the filesystem. Each would then become visible as
> > security.capability if the userns mapping is set appropriately.
> > However, this doesn't seem to be how it is implemented. There seems
> 
> Indeed, when I was considering supporting multiple simulatenous
> xattrs, I did it as something like:
> 
> struct vfs_ns_cap_data {
> 	struct {
> 		__le32 permitted;
> 		__le32 inheritable;
> 	} data[VFS_CAP_U32];
> 	__le32 rootid;
> };
> 
> struct vfs_ns_cap {
> 	__le32 magic_etc;
> 	__le32 n_entries;
> 	struct ns_cap_data data[0];
> }; // followed by n_entries of struct ns_cap_data
> 
> You're instead suggesting encoding the rootuid in the name,
> which is interesting.
> 
> > to be only a single such entry with uid appended to it and, if it
> > was a shared filesystem, the first one to set this attribute blocks
> > everyone else from writing the xattr. Is that how it works? Would
> 
> Approximately - indeed there is only a single xattr.  But it can be
> overwritten, so long as the writer has CAP_SETFCAP over the user_ns
> which mounted the filesystem.

Hang on.  I've mis-spoken.  That's the requirement for writing a
v2 xattr.  To write a v3 xattr you only need to be privileged
(with CAP_SETFCAP) against the inode.

      reply	other threads:[~2017-06-13 23:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-07  9:21 64fa03de33: BUG:Dentry_still_in_use kernel test robot
2017-05-08  4:44 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-05-08 11:47   ` Masami Ichikawa
2017-05-08 15:49     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-05-08 18:11     ` [PATCH v4] Introduce v3 namespaced file capabilities Serge E. Hallyn
2017-05-09 16:55       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-09 20:37         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-05-09 22:27           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-13 15:47       ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-13 17:14         ` Tycho Andersen
2017-06-13 17:42           ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-13 20:51             ` Tycho Andersen
2017-06-13 17:45           ` James Bottomley
2017-06-13 20:46             ` Tycho Andersen
2017-06-13 20:49               ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-13 20:53                 ` Tycho Andersen
2017-06-13 20:58                   ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-13 20:59                   ` Mimi Zohar
2017-06-13 21:09                     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-06-13 17:18         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-13 18:12           ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-13 23:55             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-14 12:27               ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-15  3:05                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-16  9:02                   ` Christian Brauner
2017-06-16 22:24                   ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-17 20:56                   ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-18 22:14                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-19  1:13                       ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-19 13:05                         ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-20  6:23                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-19 21:34                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-20  5:42                         ` Amir Goldstein
2017-06-20 12:19                           ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-20 17:33                             ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-20 19:56                               ` Amir Goldstein
2017-06-20 19:57                           ` Vivek Goyal
2017-06-13 23:42         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-13 23:50           ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]

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