From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Krister Johansen <kjlx@templeofstupid.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/sched/core] Add comments to aid in safer usage of swake_up.
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 09:10:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170614091015.01d7dc89@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170614035843.GI3721@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 20:58:43 -0700
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> And here is the part you also need to look at:
Why? We are talking about two different, unrelated variables modified
on two different CPUs. I don't see where the overlap is.
>
> ====
>
> (*) Overlapping loads and stores within a particular CPU will appear to be
> ordered within that CPU. This means that for:
>
> a = READ_ONCE(*X); WRITE_ONCE(*X, b);
>
> the CPU will only issue the following sequence of memory operations:
>
> a = LOAD *X, STORE *X = b
>
> And for:
>
> WRITE_ONCE(*X, c); d = READ_ONCE(*X);
>
> the CPU will only issue:
>
> STORE *X = c, d = LOAD *X
>
> (Loads and stores overlap if they are targeted at overlapping pieces of
> memory).
>
> ====
>
> This section needs some help -- the actual guarantee is stronger, that
> all CPUs will agree on the order of volatile same-sized aligned accesses
> to a given single location. So if a previous READ_ONCE() sees the new
> value, any subsequent READ_ONCE() from that same variable is guaranteed
> to also see the new value (or some later value).
>
> Does that help, or am I missing something here?
Maybe I'm missing something. Let me rewrite what I first wrote, and
then abstract it into a simpler version:
Here's what I first wrote:
(looking at __call_rcu_core() and rcu_gp_kthread()
CPU0 CPU1
---- ----
__call_rcu_core() {
spin_lock(rnp_root)
need_wake = __rcu_start_gp() {
rcu_start_gp_advanced() {
gp_flags = FLAG_INIT
}
}
rcu_gp_kthread() {
swait_event_interruptible(wq,
gp_flags & FLAG_INIT) {
spin_lock(q->lock)
*fetch wq->task_list here! *
list_add(wq->task_list, q->task_list)
spin_unlock(q->lock);
*fetch old value of gp_flags here *
spin_unlock(rnp_root)
rcu_gp_kthread_wake() {
swake_up(wq) {
swait_active(wq) {
list_empty(wq->task_list)
} * return false *
if (condition) * false *
schedule();
Now let's make it simpler. I'll even add the READ_ONCE and WRITE_ONCE
where applicable.
CPU0 CPU1
---- ----
LOCK(A)
LOCK(B)
WRITE_ONCE(X, INIT)
(the cpu may postpone writing X)
(the cpu can fetch wq list here)
list_add(wq, q)
UNLOCK(B)
(the cpu may fetch old value of X)
(write of X happens here)
if (READ_ONCE(X) != init)
schedule();
UNLOCK(A)
if (list_empty(wq))
return;
Tell me again how the READ_ONCE() and WRITE_ONCE() helps in this
scenario?
Because we are using spinlocks, this wont be an issue for most
architectures. The bug happens if the fetching of the list_empty()
leaks into before the UNLOCK(A).
If the reading/writing of the list and the reading/writing of gp_flags
gets reversed in either direction by the CPU, then we have a problem.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-14 13:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-09 3:25 Krister Johansen
2017-06-09 7:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-09 12:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-13 23:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-13 23:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-14 1:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-14 3:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-14 13:10 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2017-06-14 15:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-14 16:25 ` Krister Johansen
2017-06-15 4:18 ` Boqun Feng
2017-06-15 17:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-16 1:07 ` Boqun Feng
2017-06-16 3:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-10 12:10 ` [tip:locking/core] sched/wait: Remove the lockless swait_active() check in swake_up*() tip-bot for Boqun Feng
2017-06-14 15:55 ` [PATCH tip/sched/core] Add comments to aid in safer usage of swake_up Paul E. McKenney
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