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From: Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>
To: kan.liang@intel.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, babu.moger@oracle.com,
	atomlin@redhat.com, prarit@redhat.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, eranian@google.com, acme@redhat.com,
	ak@linux.intel.com, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kernel/watchdog: fix spurious hard lockups
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:40:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170621134055.4skam7ysw5ffvjr6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170620213309.30051-1-kan.liang@intel.com>

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 02:33:09PM -0700, kan.liang@intel.com wrote:
> From: Kan Liang <Kan.liang@intel.com>
> 
> Some users reported spurious NMI watchdog timeouts.
> 
> We now have more and more systems where the Turbo range is wide enough
> that the NMI watchdog expires faster than the soft watchdog timer that
> updates the interrupt tick the NMI watchdog relies on.
> 
> This problem was originally added by commit 58687acba592
> ("lockup_detector: Combine nmi_watchdog and softlockup detector").
> Previously the NMI watchdog would always check jiffies, which were
> ticking fast enough. But now the backing is quite slow so the expire
> time becomes more sensitive.
> 
> For mainline the right fix is to switch the NMI watchdog to reference
> cycles, which tick always at the same rate independent of turbo mode.
> But this is requires some complicated changes in perf, which are too
> difficult to backport. Since we need a stable fix too just increase the
> NMI watchdog rate here to avoid the spurious timeouts. This is not an
> ideal fix because a 3x as large Turbo range could still fail, but for
> now that's not likely.

As this is an Intel problem, we should at least restrict it to 
arch/x86/kernel/apic/hw_nmi.c.  I don't want to penalize other arches yet.

> 
> Signed-off-by: Kan Liang <Kan.liang@intel.com>
> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> Fixes: 58687acba592 ("lockup_detector: Combine nmi_watchdog and
> softlockup detector")
> ---
> 
> The right fix for mainline can be found here.
> perf/x86/intel: enable CPU ref_cycles for GP counter
> perf/x86/intel, watchdog: Switch NMI watchdog to ref cycles on x86
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9779087/
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9779089/

Does that mean this fix is restricted to just -stable then?  Otherwise I am
confused why we should take this patch, if you have a better fix above.

Cheers,
Don

> 
>  kernel/watchdog_hld.c | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/watchdog_hld.c b/kernel/watchdog_hld.c
> index 54a427d1f344..0f7c6e758b82 100644
> --- a/kernel/watchdog_hld.c
> +++ b/kernel/watchdog_hld.c
> @@ -164,7 +164,7 @@ int watchdog_nmi_enable(unsigned int cpu)
>  		firstcpu = 1;
>  
>  	wd_attr = &wd_hw_attr;
> -	wd_attr->sample_period = hw_nmi_get_sample_period(watchdog_thresh);
> +	wd_attr->sample_period = 3 * hw_nmi_get_sample_period(watchdog_thresh);
>  
>  	/* Try to register using hardware perf events */
>  	event = perf_event_create_kernel_counter(wd_attr, cpu, NULL, watchdog_overflow_callback, NULL);
> -- 
> 2.11.0
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-21 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-20 21:33 kan.liang
2017-06-20 22:03 ` Andrew Morton
2017-06-21 12:40   ` Liang, Kan
2017-06-21 13:47     ` Don Zickus
2017-06-21 14:10       ` Liang, Kan
2017-06-20 22:34 ` Prarit Bhargava
2017-06-20 23:00   ` Andi Kleen
2017-06-21  0:12     ` Prarit Bhargava
2017-06-21 21:02       ` Marc Herbert
2017-06-21 13:40 ` Don Zickus [this message]
2017-06-21 14:02   ` Liang, Kan
2017-06-28 11:40 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-28 13:24   ` Liang, Kan
2017-06-28 14:29     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-28 14:32       ` Liang, Kan

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