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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>
Cc: "Matthias Kaehlcke" <mka@chromium.org>,
	"Chris J Arges" <chris.j.arges@canonical.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@suse.de>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Douglas Anderson" <dianders@chromium.org>,
	"Michael Davidson" <md@google.com>,
	"Greg Hackmann" <ghackmann@google.com>,
	"Nick Desaulniers" <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	"Stephen Hines" <srhines@google.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Bernhard Rosenkränzer" <Bernhard.Rosenkranzer@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "x86/uaccess: Add stack frame output operand in get_user() inline asm"
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 15:56:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170720205652.patvjnfqymrv73ho@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPAsAGwHLgZtyy4-rvaJiYczV7+3d8sygDyUDM__05GXHGj2QA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 06:30:24PM +0300, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
> FWIW bellow is my understanding of what's going on.
> 
> It seems clang treats local named register almost the same as ordinary
> local variables.
> The only difference is that before reading the register variable clang
> puts variable's value into the specified register.
> 
> So clang just assigns stack slot for the variable __sp where it's
> going to keep variable's value.
> But since __sp is unitialized (we haven't assign anything to it), the
> value of the __sp is some garbage from stack.
> inline asm specifies __sp as input, so clang assumes that it have to
> load __sp into 'rsp' because inline asm is going to use
> it. And it just loads garbage from stack into 'rsp'
> 
> In fact, such behavior (I mean storing the value on stack and loading
> into reg before the use) is very useful.
> Clang's behavior allows to keep the value assigned to the
> call-clobbered register across the function calls.
> 
> Unlike clang, gcc assigns value to the register right away and doesn't
> store the value anywhere else. So if the reg is
> call clobbered register you have to be absolutely sure that there is
> no subsequent function call that might clobber the register.
> 
> E.g. see some real examples
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/4111971/ or 98d4ded60bda("msm: scm:
> Fix improper register assignment").
> These bugs shouldn't happen with clang.
> 
> But the global named register works slightly differently in clang. For
> the global, the value is just the value of the register itself,
> whatever it is. Read/write from global named register is just like
> direct read/write to the register

Thanks, that clears up a lot of the confusion for me.

Still, unfortunately, I don't think that's going to work for GCC.
Changing the '__sp' register variable to global in the header file
causes it to make a *bunch* of changes across the kernel, even in
functions which don't do inline asm.  It seems to be disabling some
optimizations across the board.

I do have another idea, which is to replace all uses of

  asm(" ... call foo ... " : outputs : inputs : clobbers);

with a new ASM_CALL macro:

  ASM_CALL(" ... call foo ... ", outputs, inputs, clobbers);

Then the compiler differences can be abstracted out, with GCC adding
"sp" as an output constraint and clang doing nothing (for now).

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-20 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-12 21:27 Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-12 22:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-12 22:20   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-12 22:35     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-12 22:36       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-12 23:22         ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-13 18:00           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-13 18:47             ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-13 19:25               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-13 19:38                 ` Michael Davidson
2017-07-13 20:18                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-13 20:20               ` Andrey Rybainin
2017-07-13 20:34                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-13 21:12                   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-13 21:34                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-13 21:57                       ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-19 17:46                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-19 21:50                           ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-20 10:01                           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-07-20 15:18                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-20 15:30                               ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-07-20 20:56                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2017-07-21  9:13                                   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-07-21 13:24                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-29  0:38                                   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-29  0:55                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-29  0:58                                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-29  1:06                                       ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-13 21:14                 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-13 21:25                   ` Andrey Rybainin
2017-07-13 21:43                     ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-13 21:52                       ` Josh Poimboeuf

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