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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <brendan.jackman@arm.com>,
	Dietmar Eggeman <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Make PELT signal more accurate
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 15:40:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170807134022.bvql3s5lrfgh3e5q@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170804154023.26874-1-joelaf@google.com>

On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 08:40:23AM -0700, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> The PELT signal (sa->load_avg and sa->util_avg) are not updated if the
> amount accumulated during a single update doesn't cross a period
> boundary.

> This is fine in cases where the amount accrued is much smaller than
> the size of a single PELT window (1ms) however if the amount accrued
> is high then the relative error (calculated against what the actual
> signal would be had we updated the averages) can be quite high - as
> much 3-6% in my testing.

The max accumulate we can have and not cross a boundary is 1023*1024 ns.
At which point we get a divisor of LOAD_AVG_MAX - 1024 + 1023.

So for util_sum we'd have a increase of 1023*1024/(47742-1) = ~22. Which
on the total signal for util (1024) is ~2.1%

Where does the 3-6% come from?

> Inorder to fix this, this patch does the average update by also
> checking how much time has elapsed since the last update and update
> the averages if it has been long enough (as a threshold I chose
> 128us).

This of course does the divisions more often; anything on performance
impact?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-07 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-04 15:40 Joel Fernandes
2017-08-07 13:24 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-08-08 23:11   ` Joel Fernandes
2017-08-09 10:23     ` Vincent Guittot
2017-08-09 17:51       ` Joel Fernandes
2017-08-10  7:17         ` Vincent Guittot
2017-08-10 10:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-10 15:22           ` Joel Fernandes
2017-08-07 13:40 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-08-08 23:37   ` Joel Fernandes
2017-08-10 23:11   ` Joel Fernandes
2017-08-11  2:47 ` [lkp-robot] [sched/fair] dca93994f6: unixbench.score -8.1% regression kernel test robot
2017-08-11 15:57   ` Joel Fernandes

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