From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: random.c: LFSR polynomials are not irreducible/primitive
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 18:21:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170814222105.oyswoj3xjyd5qu3c@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10436695.bPChAg2egJ@tauon.chronox.de>
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 10:20:18AM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> Hi Ted,
>
> drivers/char/random.c contains the following comment:
>
> """
> * Our mixing functions were analyzed by Lacharme, Roeck, Strubel, and
> * Videau in their paper, "The Linux Pseudorandom Number Generator
> * Revisited" (see: http://eprint.iacr.org/2012/251.pdf). In their
> * paper, they point out that we are not using a true Twisted GFSR,
> * since Matsumoto & Kurita used a trinomial feedback polynomial (that
> * is, with only three taps, instead of the six that we are using).
> * As a result, the resulting polynomial is neither primitive nor
> * irreducible, and hence does not have a maximal period over
> * GF(2**32). They suggest a slight change to the generator
> * polynomial which improves the resulting TGFSR polynomial to be
> * irreducible, which we have made here.
> """
>
> This comment leads me to belief that the current polynomial is primitive (and
> irreducible).
>
> Strangely, this is not the case as seen with the following code that can be
> used with the mathematical tool called magma. There is a free online version
> of magma available to recheck it: http://magma.maths.usyd.edu.au/calc/
>
> Note, the polynomials used up till 3.12 were primitive and irreducible.
>
> Could you please help me understanding why the current polynomials are better
> than the old ones?
Have you looked at section 3.1.1 of the above cited paper?
http://eprint.iacr.org/2012/251.pdf
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-14 22:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-14 8:20 Stephan Mueller
2017-08-14 22:21 ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2017-08-15 8:45 ` Stephan Mueller
2017-08-15 15:12 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-08-16 12:51 ` Stephan Mueller
2017-08-16 18:59 ` Fontaine david
2017-08-17 6:07 ` Stephan Mueller
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