From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751995AbdJSICB (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Oct 2017 04:02:01 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([65.50.211.133]:38691 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751735AbdJSIB7 (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Oct 2017 04:01:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 01:01:49 -0700 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Dan Williams Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi , Pankaj Gupta , Christoph Hellwig , Kevin Wolf , haozhong zhang , Jan Kara , xiaoguangrong eric , KVM list , David Hildenbrand , linux-nvdimm , ross zwisler , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Qemu Developers , Linux MM , Stefan Hajnoczi , Paolo Bonzini , Nitesh Narayan Lal Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/2] KVM: add virtio-pmem driver Message-ID: <20171019080149.GB10089@infradead.org> References: <20171012155027.3277-1-pagupta@redhat.com> <20171012155027.3277-3-pagupta@redhat.com> <20171017071633.GA9207@infradead.org> <1441791227.21027037.1508226056893.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <20171017080236.GA27649@infradead.org> <670833322.21037148.1508229041158.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <20171018130339.GB29767@stefanha-x1.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 08:51:37AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > This use case is not "Persistent Memory". Persistent Memory is > something you can map and make persistent with CPU instructions. > Anything that requires a driver call is device driver managed "Shared > Memory". How is this any different than the existing nvdimm_flush()? If you really care about the not driver thing it could easily be a write to a doorbell page or a hypercall, but in the end that's just semantics.