From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
Cc: jeyu@kernel.org, jikos@kernel.org, pmladek@suse.com,
lpechacek@suse.cz, pavel@ucw.cz, live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/2] livepatch: Introduce signal and force sysfs attributes
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:16:42 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171116011642.65xstuitmi7uv2ke@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171115135014.20594-1-mbenes@suse.cz>
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 02:50:12PM +0100, Miroslav Benes wrote:
> Currently, livepatch gradually migrate the system from an unpatched to a
> patched state (or vice versa). Each task drops its TIF_PATCH_PENDING
> itself when crossing the kernel/user space boundary or it is cleared
> using the stack checking approach. If there is a task which sleeps on a
> patched function, the whole transition can get stuck indefinitely.
>
> Livepatch has means which can be used in these cases. The transition can
> be cancelled and/or immediate flag may be used for the live patch. On
> the other hand it might be useful to poke the system a little bit and
> help the transition to finish by doing so.
>
> That is what the fake signal can be used for. A task sleeping/waiting in
> the kernel gets TIF_SIGPENDING set, it handles it and during that its
> TIF_PATCH_PENDING is cleared. Kthreads are only woken up, they do not
> handle signals suitably.
>
> Still, there are cases which neither fake signal can solve. A task can
> sleep uninterruptedly without reacting to signals at all. Even then, it
> may be safe to clear the task's TIF_PATCH_PENDING. As a last resort,
> admin may force such clearing for all tasks in the system with this
> patch set.
>
> We use the fake signal in SLES for a long time. Moreover, we don't have
> a stack checking there, so we rely on the fake signal a lot. We send it
> automatically and periodically.
>
> Petr, I did not add you Reviewed-by tags intentionally because of the changes.
>
> Changes from v3:
> - only TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE kthreads are woken up - Petr
> - documentation - Pavel
> - function naming and sysfs fix - Josh
For the series:
Acked-by: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
--
Josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-16 1:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-15 13:50 Miroslav Benes
2017-11-15 13:50 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] livepatch: send a fake signal to all blocking tasks Miroslav Benes
2017-11-30 21:53 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-12-01 10:13 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-15 13:50 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] livepatch: force transition to finish Miroslav Benes
2017-11-20 15:57 ` Miroslav Benes
2017-11-20 23:02 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-11-20 23:09 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-11-20 23:11 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-11-20 23:14 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-11-22 10:29 ` [PATCH v4.1 " Miroslav Benes
2017-12-15 18:04 ` Jason Baron
2017-12-18 13:23 ` Miroslav Benes
2017-12-18 19:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-12-19 13:27 ` Petr Mladek
2017-11-20 23:14 ` [PATCH v4 " Pavel Machek
2017-11-20 23:17 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-11-21 10:04 ` Petr Mladek
2017-11-16 1:16 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2017-12-04 21:37 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] livepatch: Introduce signal and force sysfs attributes Jiri Kosina
2017-12-07 12:23 ` Jiri Kosina
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