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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Intel Graphics Development <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>,
	Marta Lofstedt <marta.lofstedt@intel.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] lockdep: Up MAX_LOCKDEP_CHAINS
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 09:08:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171130080810.vedn2ivhurgnsu62@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171130074718.hzed67wrwjtv4byu@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 08:47:18AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 04:41:45PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > cross-release ftl
> > 
> > From Chris:
> > 
> > "Fwiw, this isn't cross-release but us reloading the module many times,
> > creating a whole host of new lockclasses. Even more fun is when the
> > module gets a slightly different address and the new lock address hashes
> > into an old lock...
> 
> Yeah, this is a known issue, just reboot.
> 
> > "I did think about a module-hook to revoke the stale lockclasses, but
> > that still leaves all the hashed chains.
> 
> Its an absolute royal pain to remove all the resources consumed by a
> module, and if you manage you then have to deal with fragmented storage
> -- that is, we need to go keep track of which entries are used.
> 
> Its a giant heap of complexity that's just not worth it.
> 
> 
> Given all that, I don't see why we should up this. Just don't reload
> modules (or better, don't use modules at all).

We use excessive amounts of module reloading to validate the failure paths
of driver load. Rebooting takes too much time. I guess we could look into
just rebinding the driver without reloading, that should take the pain off
lockdep. Meanwhile we can carry this locally.

I just included this to check whether you have any plans, thanks for
clarifying that this is not worth it from a core perspective to get fixed.
The real issue we have in CI is the one the first patch papers over.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

      reply	other threads:[~2017-11-30  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-29 15:41 [PATCH 0/2] lockdep cross-release fallout from -rc1 Daniel Vetter
2017-11-29 15:41 ` [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: finer-grained completion key for kthread Daniel Vetter
2017-12-04  8:16   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-11-29 15:41 ` [PATCH 2/2] lockdep: Up MAX_LOCKDEP_CHAINS Daniel Vetter
2017-11-30  7:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-30  8:08     ` Daniel Vetter [this message]

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