From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
tglx@linutronix.de, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RT] arm*: disable NEON in kernel mode
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 18:24:10 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171201182410.GU22781@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171201180828.GN10595@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 06:08:28PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 05:58:45PM +0000, Dave Martin wrote:
> > +1, at least for arm64. I don't see a really compelling reason for
> > holding kernel-mode NEON around memory management now that we have a
> > strict save-once-restore-lazily model.
> >
> > This may not work so well for arm though -- I haven't looked at that
> > code for a while.
> >
> >
> > If there is memory manamement in any core loop, you already lost
> > the performance battle, and an extra
> > kernel_neon_end()+kernel_neon_begin() may not be that catastrophic.
>
> Remember that we don't permit context switches while kernel neon is
> in use on ARM - if there's any possibility of scheduling to occur,
> the get_cpu() in kernel_neon_begin() should trigger a schedule-while-
> atomic warning.
Agreed, and an arm64 the same is true. (Actually softirq is disabled
too, for tortuous reasons involving SVE.)
On 2017-12-01 11:43:32 [+0100], To linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org wrote:
> NEON in kernel mode is used by the crypto algorithms and raid6 code.
> While the raid6 code looks okay, the crypto algorithms do not: NEON
> is enabled on first invocation and may allocate/free/map memory before
> the NEON mode is disabled again.
> This needs to be changed until it can be enabled.
> On ARM NEON in kernel mode can be simply disabled. on ARM64 it needs to
> stay on due to possible EFI callbacks so here I disable each algorithm.
[...]
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/crypto/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/crypto/Kconfig
> index 70c517aa4501..2a5f05b5a19a 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/crypto/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/arm64/crypto/Kconfig
> @@ -19,19 +19,19 @@ config CRYPTO_SHA512_ARM64
>
> config CRYPTO_SHA1_ARM64_CE
> tristate "SHA-1 digest algorithm (ARMv8 Crypto Extensions)"
> - depends on KERNEL_MODE_NEON
> + depends on KERNEL_MODE_NEON && !PREEMPT_RT_BASE
> select CRYPTO_HASH
> select CRYPTO_SHA1
Sebastian, can you piont to where sha1 (say) hits this issue?
I wonder whether this is really a sign that some refactoring is needed.
Cheers
---Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-01 18:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-30 14:22 [PATCH RT] crypto: limit more FPU-enabled sections Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-11-30 14:30 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 10:43 ` [PATCH RT] arm*: disable NEON in kernel mode Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 13:45 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 14:18 ` Mark Rutland
2017-12-01 14:36 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 15:03 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-01 17:58 ` Dave Martin
2017-12-01 18:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-12-01 18:24 ` Dave Martin [this message]
2017-12-01 19:20 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-04 9:21 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 17:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-01 17:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-12-01 17:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-30 15:19 ` [PATCH RT] crypto: limit more FPU-enabled sections Steven Rostedt
2017-11-30 15:22 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 10:44 ` [PATCH RT v2] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 11:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-01 13:32 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 13:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-01 13:50 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 14:03 ` [PATCH RT v3] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-11-30 15:29 ` [PATCH RT] " Steven Rostedt
2017-11-30 15:41 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-11-30 16:18 ` Steven Rostedt
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