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From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Torsten Duwe <duwe@lst.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] On ppc64le we HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 19:40:09 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171215194009.349b04da@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171212140501.44vf4xcz6jhbqofd@treble>

On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:05:01 -0600
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 12:39:12PM +0100, Torsten Duwe wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > The "Power Architecture 64-Bit ELF V2 ABI" says in section 2.3.2.3:
> > 
> > [...] There are several rules that must be adhered to in order to ensure
> > reliable and consistent call chain backtracing:
> > 
> > * Before a function calls any other function, it shall establish its
> >   own stack frame, whose size shall be a multiple of 16 bytes.  
> 
> What about leaf functions?  If a leaf function doesn't establish a stack
> frame, and it has inline asm which contains a blr to another function,
> this ABI is broken.
> 
> Also, even for non-leaf functions, is it possible for GCC to insert the
> inline asm before it sets up the stack frame?  (This is an occasional
> problem on x86.)

Inline asm must not have control transfer out of the statement unless
it is asm goto.

> 
> Also, what about hand-coded asm?

Should follow the same rules if it uses the stack.

> 
> > To me this sounds like the equivalent of HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE.
> > This patch may be unneccessarily limited to ppc64le, but OTOH the only
> > user of this flag so far is livepatching, which is only implemented on
> > PPCs with 64-LE, a.k.a. ELF ABI v2.  
> 
> In addition to fixing the above issues, the unwinder also needs to
> detect interrupts (i.e., preemption) and page faults on the stack of a
> blocked task.  If a function were preempted before it created a stack
> frame, or if a leaf function blocked on a page fault, the stack trace
> will skip the function's caller, so such a trace will need to be
> reported to livepatch as unreliable.

I don't think there is much problem there for powerpc. Stack frame
creation and function call with return pointer are each atomic.

> 
> Furthermore, the "reliable" unwinder needs to have a way to report an
> error if it doesn't reach the end.  This probably just means ensuring
> that it reaches the user mode registers on the stack.
> 
> And as Miroslav mentioned, once that's all done, implement
> save_stack_trace_tsk_reliable().
> 
> I don't think the above is documented anywhere, it would be good to put
> it in the livepatch doc.
> 

Thanks,
Nick

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-15  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20171005124313.GA25100@lst.de>
     [not found]   ` <9f388c9a-8d74-865a-b113-f77322918b39@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]     ` <20171017144733.GB2136@lst.de>
     [not found]       ` <95e6f942-88b7-0208-0eb0-2f5462aec410@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]         ` <20171020120739.GA20306@lst.de>
     [not found]           ` <1508547548.5662.2.camel@gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <39bb7180-1adf-4df6-c9ba-c6f92754767f@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2017-12-12 11:39               ` Torsten Duwe
2017-12-12 12:12                 ` Miroslav Benes
2017-12-12 13:02                   ` Torsten Duwe
2018-02-27 16:09                   ` [PATCH 2/2] ppc64le save_stack_trace_tsk_reliable (Was: HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE) Torsten Duwe
2018-03-08 21:43                     ` Balbir Singh
2018-03-09 15:54                       ` Torsten Duwe
2017-12-12 14:05                 ` [PATCH] On ppc64le we HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE Josh Poimboeuf
2017-12-15  9:40                   ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2017-12-18  2:58                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-12-18  3:39                       ` Balbir Singh
2017-12-18  4:01                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-12-18  5:33                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-12-18 18:56                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-12-19  2:46                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-12-19 11:28                           ` Torsten Duwe
2017-12-19 21:46                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-12-21 12:10                               ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-23  4:00                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf

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