From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/10] prevent bounds-check bypass via speculative execution
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 08:56:34 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180120165631.e7c3kipmhb5sckor@ast-mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4iBHTahi66deUT1iSPpA2W2wjYZSaiUYUjpdK10d5Rt7g@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 10:58:44PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 4:01 PM, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:
> > Changes since v3 [1]
> > * Drop 'ifence_array_ptr' and associated compile-time + run-time
> > switching and just use the masking approach all the time.
> >
> > * Convert 'get_user' to use pointer sanitization via masking rather than
> > lfence. '__get_user' and associated paths still rely on
> > lfence. (Linus)
> >
> > "Basically, the rule is trivial: find all 'stac' users, and use
> > address masking if those users already integrate the limit
> > check, and lfence they don't."
> >
> > * At syscall entry sanitize the syscall number under speculation
> > to remove a user controlled pointer de-reference in kernel
> > space. (Linus)
> >
> > * Fix a raw lfence in the kvm code (added for v4.15-rc8) to use
> > 'array_ptr'.
> >
> > * Propose 'array_idx' as a way to sanitize user input that is
> > later used as an array index, but where the validation is
> > happening in a different code block than the array reference.
> > (Christian).
> >
> > * Fix grammar in speculation.txt (Kees)
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Quoting Mark's original RFC:
> >
> > "Recently, Google Project Zero discovered several classes of attack
> > against speculative execution. One of these, known as variant-1, allows
> > explicit bounds checks to be bypassed under speculation, providing an
> > arbitrary read gadget. Further details can be found on the GPZ blog [2]
> > and the Documentation patch in this series."
> >
> > A precondition of using this attack on the kernel is to get a user
> > controlled pointer de-referenced (under speculation) in privileged code.
> > The primary source of user controlled pointers in the kernel is the
> > arguments passed to 'get_user' and '__get_user'. An example of other
> > user controlled pointers are user-controlled array / pointer offsets.
> >
> > Better tooling is needed to find more arrays / pointers with user
> > controlled indices / offsets that can be converted to use 'array_ptr' or
> > 'array_idx'. A few are included in this set, and these are not expected
> > to be complete. That said, the 'get_user' protections raise the bar on
> > finding a vulnerable gadget in the kernel.
> >
> > These patches are also available via the 'nospec-v4' git branch here:
> >
> > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/djbw/linux nospec-v4
>
> I've pushed out a nospec-v4.1 with the below minor cleanup, a fixup of
> the changelog for "kvm, x86: fix spectre-v1 mitigation", and added
> Paolo's ack.
>
> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/djbw/linux nospec-v4.1
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/nospec.h b/include/linux/nospec.h
> index 8af35be1869e..b8a9222e34d1 100644
> --- a/include/linux/nospec.h
> +++ b/include/linux/nospec.h
> @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ static inline unsigned long array_ptr_mask(unsigned
> long idx, unsigned long sz)
> unsigned long _i = (idx); \
> unsigned long _mask = array_ptr_mask(_i, (sz)); \
> \
> - __u._ptr = _arr + (_i & _mask); \
> + __u._ptr = _arr + _i; \
> __u._bit &= _mask; \
> __u._ptr; \
hmm. I'm not sure it's the right thing to do, since the macro
is forcing cpu to speculate subsequent load from null instead
of valid pointer.
As Linus said: "
So that __u._bit masking wasn't masking
the pointer, it was masking the value that was *read* from the
pointer, so that you could know that an invalid access returned
0/NULL, not just the first value in the array.
"
imo just
return _arr + (_i & _mask);
is enough. No need for union games.
The cpu will speculate the load from _arr[0] if _i is out of bounds
which is the same as if user passed _i == 0 which would have passed
bounds check anyway, so I don't see any data leak from populating
cache with _arr[0] data. In-bounds access can do that just as well
without any speculation.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-20 16:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-19 0:01 Dan Williams
2018-01-19 0:01 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] Documentation: document array_ptr Dan Williams
2018-01-19 0:01 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] asm/nospec, array_ptr: sanitize speculative array de-references Dan Williams
2018-01-19 10:20 ` [kernel-hardening] " Jann Horn
2018-01-19 17:48 ` Adam Sampson
2018-01-19 18:12 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-19 18:18 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-19 18:26 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-19 18:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-19 20:55 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-25 7:09 ` Cyril Novikov
2018-01-25 22:37 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-19 0:01 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] x86: implement array_ptr_mask() Dan Williams
2018-01-19 0:01 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] x86: introduce __uaccess_begin_nospec and ifence Dan Williams
2018-01-19 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] x86, __get_user: use __uaccess_begin_nospec Dan Williams
2018-01-19 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] x86, get_user: use pointer masking to limit speculation Dan Williams
2018-01-19 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] x86: narrow out of bounds syscalls to sys_read under speculation Dan Williams
2018-01-24 14:40 ` Jiri Slaby
2018-02-06 19:29 ` Luis Henriques
2018-02-06 19:48 ` Dan Williams
2018-02-06 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 20:37 ` Dan Williams
2018-02-06 20:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 20:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 20:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-02-06 20:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 21:37 ` Dan Williams
2018-02-06 22:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-07 0:33 ` Dan Williams
2018-02-07 1:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 22:51 ` Luis Henriques
2018-01-19 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] vfs, fdtable: prevent bounds-check bypass via speculative execution Dan Williams
2018-01-19 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] kvm, x86: fix spectre-v1 mitigation Dan Williams
2018-01-19 8:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-19 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] nl80211: sanitize array index in parse_txq_params Dan Williams
2018-01-21 10:37 ` Johannes Berg
2018-01-20 6:58 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] prevent bounds-check bypass via speculative execution Dan Williams
2018-01-20 16:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2018-01-20 17:07 ` Alexei Starovoitov
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