From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: Can RCU stall lead to hard lockups?
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 20:55:04 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180207025504.GA10892@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180207025337.GD3617@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 06:53:37PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 08:33:03PM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 12:50:32PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 05:44:30PM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > > > Quoting Paul E. McKenney (paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com):
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 06:11:14AM -0800, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > > > > > Hello, Paul.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 08:24:25PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > > > > I don't know the RCU code at all but it *looks* like the first CPU is
> > > > > > > > taking a sweet while flushing printk buffer while holding a lock (the
> > > > > > > > console is IPMI serial console, which faithfully emulates 115200 baud
> > > > > > > > rate), and everyone else seems stuck waiting for that spinlock in
> > > > > > > > rcu_check_callbacks().
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does this sound possible?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 115200 baud? Ouch!!! That -will- result in trouble from console
> > > > > > > printing, and often also in RCU CPU stall warnings.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It could even be slower than 115200, and we occassionally see RCU
> > > > > > stall warnings caused by printk storms, for example, while the kernel
> > > > > > is trying to dump a lot of info after an OOM. That's an issue we
> > > > > > probably want to improve from printk side; however, they don't usually
> > > > > > lead to NMI hard lockup detector kicking in and crashing the machine,
> > > > > > which is the peculiarity here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hmmm... show_state_filter(), the function which dumps all task
> > > > > > backtraces, share a similar problem and it avoids it by explicitly
> > > > > > calling touch_nmi_watchdog(). Maybe we can do something like the
> > > > > > following from RCU too?
> > > > >
> > > > > If this fixes things for you, I would welcome such a patch.
> > > >
> > > > Hi - would this also be relevant to 4.9-stable and 4.4-stable, or
> > > > has something elsewhere changed after 4.9 that actually triggers this?
> > >
> > > As far as I can tell, slow console lines have been prone to RCU CPU stall
> > > warnings for a very long time.
> >
> > Ok, thanks Paul.
> >
> > Tejun were you going to push this?
>
> I have it queued for the next merge window. 3eea9623926f ("rcu: Call
> touch_nmi_watchdog() while printing stall warnings") in -rcu.
D'oh - thanks!
-serge
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-02-07 2:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-09 3:52 Tejun Heo
2018-01-09 4:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-09 14:11 ` Tejun Heo
2018-01-09 15:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-09 18:47 ` [PATCH] RCU: Call touch_nmi_watchdog() while printing stall warnings Tejun Heo
2018-01-09 18:52 ` [PATCH trivial-v2] " Tejun Heo
2018-01-09 20:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-10 5:34 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-01-10 14:57 ` Tejun Heo
2018-01-11 0:45 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-02-02 23:44 ` Can RCU stall lead to hard lockups? Serge E. Hallyn
2018-02-03 20:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-07 2:33 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-02-07 2:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-07 2:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2018-02-07 3:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
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