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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@suse.cz>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched/numa: Delay retrying placement for automatic NUMA balance after wake_affine
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 15:00:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180213150020.xds3htkutdk4sdwx@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180213144326.GO25201@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 03:43:26PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > 
> > Well, it was deliberate. While it's possible to be on the same memory
> > node and not sharing cache, the scheduler typically is more concerned with
> > the LLC than NUMA per-se. If they share LLC, then I also assume that they
> > share memory locality.
> 
> True, but the remaining code only has effect for numa balance, which is
> concerned with nodes. So I don't see the point of using something
> potentially smaller.
> 
> Suppose someone did hardware where a node has 2 cache clusters, then
> we'd still set a wake_affine back-off for numa-balance, even though it
> remains on the same node.
> 
> How would that be useful?

Fair point, it could be unexpected from a NUMA balancing perspective and
sub-numa clustering does exist so it's a potential issue. I'm happy to
change it to cpu_to_node. I can resend the series if you prefer but feel
free to change it in-place if you're picking it up. I do not expect any
change on the machines I tested with as for all of them LLC was equivalent
to checking the node ID.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-13 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-13 13:37 [PATCH 0/6] Reduce migrations and conflicts with automatic NUMA balancing v2 Mel Gorman
2018-02-13 13:37 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched/fair: Avoid an unnecessary lookup of current CPU ID during wake_affine Mel Gorman
2018-02-21 10:27   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Mel Gorman
2018-02-13 13:37 ` [PATCH 2/6] sched/fair: Defer calculation of prev_eff_load in wake_affine until needed Mel Gorman
2018-02-21 10:28   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Defer calculation of 'prev_eff_load' in wake_affine_weight() " tip-bot for Mel Gorman
2018-02-13 13:37 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched/fair: Do not migrate on wake_affine_weight if weights are equal Mel Gorman
2018-02-21 10:28   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Do not migrate on wake_affine_weight() " tip-bot for Mel Gorman
2018-02-13 13:37 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched/fair: Do not migrate due to a sync wakeup on exit Mel Gorman
2018-02-21 10:29   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-13 13:37 ` [PATCH 5/6] sched/fair: Consider SD_NUMA when selecting the most idle group to schedule on Mel Gorman
2018-02-21 10:29   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Mel Gorman
2018-02-13 13:37 ` [PATCH 6/6] sched/numa: Delay retrying placement for automatic NUMA balance after wake_affine Mel Gorman
2018-02-13 14:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-13 14:18     ` Mel Gorman
2018-02-13 14:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-13 15:00         ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2018-02-13 15:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-21 10:30   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/numa: Delay retrying placement for automatic NUMA balance after wake_affine() tip-bot for Mel Gorman
2018-05-07 11:06     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-05-09  8:41       ` Mel Gorman
2018-05-09 10:58         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-05-09 16:34           ` Mel Gorman

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