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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched/isolation: Tick offload documentation
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:52:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180214145248.GA2456@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180209070649.kuk3dbwsycnqugsd@gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 08:06:49AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > Update the documentation to reflect the 1Hz tick offload changes.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>
> > Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
> > Cc: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
> > Cc: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > Cc: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt | 6 +++++-
> >  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> > index 39ac9d4..c851e41 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> > @@ -1762,7 +1762,11 @@
> >  			specified in the flag list (default: domain):
> >  
> >  			nohz
> > -			  Disable the tick when a single task runs.
> > +			  Disable the tick when a single task runs. A residual 1Hz
> > +			  tick is offloaded to workqueues that you need to affine
> > +			  to housekeeping through the sysfs file
> > +			  /sys/devices/virtual/workqueue/cpumask or using the below
> > +			  domain flag.
> 
> This is pretty ambiguous and somewhat confusing, I'd suggest something like:
> 
> 			nohz
> 			  Disable the tick when a single task runs.
> 
> 			  A residual 1Hz tick is offloaded to workqueues, which you 
> 			  need to affine to housekeeping through the global 
> 			  workqueue's affinity configured via the 
> 			  /sys/devices/virtual/workqueue/cpumask sysfs file, or 
> 			  by using the 'domain' flag described below.
> 
> 			  NOTE: by default the global workqueue runs on all CPUs, 
> 			  so to protect individual CPUs the 'cpumask' file has to 
> 			  be configured manually after bootup.
> 
> Assuming what I wrote is correct - the CPU isolation config space is pretty 
> confusing all around and should be made a lot more human friendly ...

That's right. In fact "nohz_full=" affines the workqueues and it involves much
more: unbound timers affinity, RCU threads, etc...

So "nohz_full=" is the friendly interface as it does all in one.

Now the use of "isolcpus=" is supposed to be more finegrained and allow for more control.
Ideally I would like to have an "unbound" flag which affines all these unbound works. And
why not a "per_cpu" flag to disable or offload per cpu work such as watchdog.

So we would only need to do:

     isolcpus=nohz,unbound,per_cpu

Or even just:

     isolcpus=all

But before extending further isolcpus=, I would like to make sure I can make it mutable
later through cpusets. So this is work in progress.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-14 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-08 17:59 [PATCH 0/6] isolation: 1Hz residual tick offloading v5 Frederic Weisbecker
2018-02-08 17:59 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched: Rename init_rq_hrtick to hrtick_rq_init Frederic Weisbecker
2018-02-09  6:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-08 17:59 ` [PATCH 2/6] nohz: Allow to check if remote CPU tick is stopped Frederic Weisbecker
2018-02-08 17:59 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched/isolation: Isolate workqueues when "nohz_full=" is set Frederic Weisbecker
2018-02-09  6:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-10 10:22     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-02-08 17:59 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched/isolation: Residual 1Hz scheduler tick offload Frederic Weisbecker
2018-02-09  7:16   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-10 10:29     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-02-08 17:59 ` [PATCH 5/6] sched/nohz: Remove the 1 Hz tick code Frederic Weisbecker
2018-02-08 17:59 ` [PATCH 6/6] sched/isolation: Tick offload documentation Frederic Weisbecker
2018-02-09  7:06   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-14 14:52     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2018-02-09  7:00 ` [PATCH 0/6] isolation: 1Hz residual tick offloading v5 Ingo Molnar
2018-02-10 10:24   ` Frederic Weisbecker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-01-19  0:02 [GIT PULL] isolation: 1Hz residual tick offloading v4 Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-19  0:02 ` [PATCH 6/6] sched/isolation: Tick offload documentation Frederic Weisbecker

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