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From: Ulf Magnusson <ulfalizer@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Michal Marek <michal.lkml@markovi.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/23] kconfig: add 'shell-stdout' function
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:54:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180219185444.o6p2v7qtl2fg5r35@huvuddator> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzu8+yaAGvdZMRYJWWZmv_OnFnocnvUiSKcAyNQ1z9kmQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:01:49AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > I do like your "success"/"stdout" more than "shell"/"shell-stdout",
> > because with that naming I don't get the feeling that one should
> > subsume the other.
> 
> Hmm. Thinking about it some more, I really would prefer just "$(shell
> ...)" everywhere.
> 
> But it would be nice if perhaps the error handling would match the
> context somehow.
> 
> I'm wondering if this might tie into the whole quoting discussion in
> the other thread.
> 
> Because the rule could be:
> 
> (a) unquoted $(shell ) is a bool, and failing is ok (and turns into
> y/n depending on whether successful or failing)
> 
> So
> 
>   config CC_IS_GCC
>           bool
>           default $(shell $CC --version | grep -q gcc)
> 
> works automatically.
> 
> (b) but with quoting, $(shell ) is a string, and failing is an error
> 
> So
> 
>   config GCC_VERSION
>           int
>           default "$(shell-stdout $srctree/scripts/gcc-version.sh $CC
> | sed 's/^0*//')" if CC_IS_GCC
>           default 0
> 
> would need those quotes, and if the shell-script returns a failure,
> we'd _abort_.
> 
> Which is actually what we want there.
> 
> Hmm? Is that too nasty?
> 
>                 Linus

One minor drawback would be slight kludginess if you want "n"/"y" put
into a string depending on the success of a command:

	default	"foo-$(shell cmd && echo y || echo n)"

As opposed to:

	default "foo-$(success cmd)"

I don't know if that's significant enough to matter in practice.

Keeping it objective, I can't see any major downsides, though I'd really
prefer to just have $() do string interpolation within "". That keeps
the implementation trivial and makes the behavior and limitations
obvious once you know that n/m/y is just shorthand for "n"/"m"/"y".

Cheers,
Ulf

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-19 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-16 18:38 [PATCH 00/23] kconfig: move compiler capability tests to Kconfig Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 01/23] kbuild: remove kbuild cache Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 02/23] kbuild: remove CONFIG_CROSS_COMPILE support Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 03/23] kconfig: add xstrdup() helper Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-01 15:02   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 04/23] kconfig: set SYMBOL_AUTO to the symbol marked with defconfig_list Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-01 15:05   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-01 17:11     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 05/23] kconfig: move and rename sym_expand_string_value() Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 06/23] kconfig: reference environments directly and remove 'option env=' syntax Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-18 11:15   ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 07/23] kconfig: add function support and implement 'shell' function Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-17 16:16   ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 15:57     ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-19 17:50       ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 20:06         ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 22:06           ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 08/23] kconfig: add 'macro' keyword to support user-defined function Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 19:49   ` Nicolas Pitre
2018-02-16 23:51     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-17  2:30       ` Nicolas Pitre
2018-02-17  4:29         ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-17  4:44           ` Nicolas Pitre
2018-02-17  6:06             ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 09/23] kconfig: add 'cc-option' macro Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 10/23] stack-protector: test compiler capability in Kconfig and drop AUTO mode Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21  4:39   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 11/23] kconfig: add 'shell-stdout' function Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 19:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-19  4:48     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 17:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-19 18:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-19 18:54           ` Ulf Magnusson [this message]
2018-02-21  4:59           ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21 16:41             ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-21 17:01             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 12/23] kconfig: replace $UNAME_RELEASE with function call Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 13/23] kconfig: expand environments/functions in (main)menu, comment, prompt Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 14/23] kconfig: show compiler version text in the top comment Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 15/23] kconfig: add CC_IS_GCC and GCC_VERSION Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 16/23] kbuild: add clang-version.sh Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 17/23] kconfig: add CC_IS_CLANG and CLANG_VERSION Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 18/23] gcov: remove CONFIG_GCOV_FORMAT_AUTODETECT Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 19/23] kcov: imply GCC_PLUGINS and GCC_PLUGIN_SANCOV instead of select'ing them Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 20/23] gcc-plugins: always build plugins with C++ Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-22 18:45   ` Emese Revfy
2018-02-23 12:37     ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 21/23] gcc-plugins: move GCC version check for PowerPC to Kconfig Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-22  5:04   ` Andrew Donnellan
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 22/23] gcc-plugins: test GCC plugin support in Kconfig Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 23/23] gcc-plugins: enable GCC_PLUGINS for COMPILE_TEST Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-18 22:13 ` [PATCH 00/23] kconfig: move compiler capability tests to Kconfig Sam Ravnborg
2018-02-19 15:18   ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-21  7:38     ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21  9:56       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21 10:20         ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21 10:52           ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21 12:57             ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21 16:03               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21 21:39               ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  5:50                 ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-02  9:03                   ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  9:12                     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-22  3:22               ` Michael Ellerman

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