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From: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next 00/22] remove in-kernel syscall invocations (part 2 == netdev)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 20:39:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180316193948.GA12435@light.dominikbrodowski.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180316.143021.1158193720540239477.davem@davemloft.net>

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 02:30:21PM -0400, David Miller wrote:
> From: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 18:05:52 +0100
> 
> > The rationale of this change is described in patch 1 of part 1[*] as follows:
> > 
> > 	The syscall entry points to the kernel defined by SYSCALL_DEFINEx()
> > 	and COMPAT_SYSCALL_DEFINEx() should only be called from userspace
> > 	through kernel entry points, but not from the kernel itself. This
> > 	will allow cleanups and optimizations to the entry paths *and* to
> > 	the parts of the kernel code which currently need to pretend to be
> > 	userspace in order to make use of syscalls.
> > 
> > At present, these patches are based on v4.16-rc5; there is one trivial
> > conflict against net-next. Dave, I presume that you prefer to take them
> > through net-next? If you want to, I can re-base them against net-next.
> > If you prefer otherwise, though, I can route them as part of my whole
> > syscall series.
> 
> So the transformations themeselves are relatively trivial, so on that
> aspect I don't have any problems with these changes.

Thank you for your fast feedback.

> But overall I have to wonder.
> 
> I imagine one of the things you'd like to do is declare that syscall
> entries use a different (better) argument passing scheme.  For
> example, passing values in registers instead of on the stack.

Well, sort of. Currently, x86-64 decodes all six registers unconditionally:

		regs->ax = sys_call_table[nr](
			regs->di, regs->si, regs->dx,
			regs->r10, regs->r8, regs->r9);

so that in do_syscall_64(), we have to get six parameters from the
stack:

	mov    0x38(%rbx),%rcx
	mov    0x60(%rbx),%rdx
	mov    0x68(%rbx),%rsi
	mov    0x70(%rbx),%rdi
	mov    0x40(%rbx),%r9
	mov    0x48(%rbx),%r8

Instead, the aim is to do

	regs->ax = sys_call_table[nr](regs)

... which results in just a register rename operation:

	mov    %rbp,%rdi

> But in situations where you split out the system call function
> completely into one of these "helpers", the compiler is going
> to have two choices:
> 
> 1) Expand the helper into the syscall function inline, thus we end up
>    with two copies of the function.

That's only sensible for very short stubs, which just call another function
(e.g. __compat_sys_sendmsg()).

> 2) Call the helper from the syscall function.  Well, then the compiler
>    will need to pop the syscal obtained arguments from the registers
>    onto the stack.
> 
> So this doesn't seem like such a total win to me.
> 
> Maybe you can explain things better to ease my concerns.

For example, for sys_recv() and sys_recvfrom(), if all is complete, this
results in:

sys_x86_64_recv:
	callq <__fentry__>
	/* decode struct pt_regs for exactly those parameters
	 * we care about
	 */
	mov    0x38(%rdi),%rcx
	xor    %r9d,%r9d
	xor    %r8d,%r8d
	mov    0x60(%rdi),%rdx
	mov    0x68(%rdi),%rsi
	mov    0x70(%rdi),%rdi

	/* call __sys_recvfrom */
	callq  <__sys_recvfrom>

	/* cleanup and return */
	cltq
	retq

That's only obtaining four entries from the stack, and two register clearing
operations; sys_x86_64_recvfrom is similar (6 movs from stack, one register
rename mov, no xor).

__sys_recvfrom() then does the actual work, starting with pushing some
register contect out of the way and moving registers around, more or less
what SyS_recvfrom() does today.

So the result is nothing spectacular or unusual, but pretty equivalent and
possibly even shorter compared to current codepath.

Thanks,
	Dominik

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-16 20:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-16 17:05 Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:05 ` [PATCH -next 01/22] net: socket: add __sys_recvfrom() helper; remove in-kernel call to syscall Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:05 ` [PATCH -next 02/22] net: socket: add __sys_sendto() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:05 ` [PATCH -next 03/22] net: socket: add __sys_accept4() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:05 ` [PATCH -next 04/22] net: socket: add __sys_socket() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:05 ` [PATCH -next 05/22] net: socket: add __sys_bind() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:05 ` [PATCH -next 06/22] net: socket: add __sys_connect() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:05 ` [PATCH -next 07/22] net: socket: add __sys_listen() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 08/22] net: socket: add __sys_getsockname() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 09/22] net: socket: add __sys_getpeername() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 10/22] net: socket: add __sys_socketpair() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 11/22] net: socket: add __sys_shutdown() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 12/22] net: socket: add __sys_setsockopt() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 13/22] net: socket: add __sys_getsockopt() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 14/22] net: socket: add do_sys_recvmmsg() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 15/22] net: socket: move check for forbid_cmsg_compat to __sys_...msg() Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 16/22] net: socket: replace calls to sys_send() with __sys_sendto() Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 17/22] net: socket: replace call to sys_recv() with __sys_recvfrom() Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 18/22] net: socket: add __compat_sys_recvfrom() helper; remove in-kernel call to compat syscall Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 19/22] net: socket: add __compat_sys_setsockopt() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 20/22] net: socket: add __compat_sys_getsockopt() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 21/22] net: socket: add __compat_sys_recvmmsg() " Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 17:06 ` [PATCH -next 22/22] net: socket: add __compat_sys_...msg() helpers; remove in-kernel calls to compat syscalls Dominik Brodowski
2018-03-16 18:30 ` [PATCH -next 00/22] remove in-kernel syscall invocations (part 2 == netdev) David Miller
2018-03-16 19:39   ` Dominik Brodowski [this message]
2018-03-16 19:42   ` Linus Torvalds

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