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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Sinan Kaya <okaya@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Oza Pawandeep <poza@codeaurora.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Philippe Ombredanne <pombredanne@nexb.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Kate Stewart <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dongdong Liu <liudongdong3@huawei.com>,
	Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>, Wei Zhang <wzhang@fb.com>,
	Timur Tabi <timur@codeaurora.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 6/6] PCI/DPC: Do not do recovery for hotplug enabled system
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 09:06:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180412140648.GD145698@bhelgaas-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13efe2e8-74c8-acb4-ec58-f79b14a1f182@codeaurora.org>

[+cc Alex because of his interest in device reset]

For context, here's the part of the patch we're discussing:

> >>  static void dpc_work(struct work_struct *work)
> >>  {
> >>         struct dpc_dev *dpc = container_of(work, struct dpc_dev, work);
> >>         struct pci_dev *pdev = dpc->dev->port;
> >> 
> >>         /* From DPC point of view error is always FATAL. */
> >> -       pcie_do_recovery(pdev, DPC_FATAL);
> >> +       if (!pdev->is_hotplug_bridge)
> >> +               pcie_do_recovery(pdev, DPC_FATAL);
> >> +       else
> >> +               dpc_reset_link_remove_dev(pdev);
> >>  }

This is at the point where DPC has been triggered in the hardware and
the DPC driver is starting recovery, and I'm wondering why we need to
handle the "!pdev->is_hotplug_bridge" case differently.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 09:41:56PM -0400, Sinan Kaya wrote:
> On 4/10/2018 5:03 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> >> DPC and AER should attempt recovery in the same way, except the
> >> cases where system is with hotplug enabled.
> > What's the connection with hotplug?  I see from the patch that for
> > hotplug bridges you remove the tree below the bridge, and otherwise
> > you just reset the secondary link (I think).
> > 
> > The changelog should explain why we need the difference.
> > 
> > I'm a little skeptical to begin with, because I'm not sure why we
> > should handle a DPC event differently just because a bridge has the
> > *capability* of hotplug.  Even if a hotplug bridge reports a DPC
> > event, that doesn't necessarily mean a hotplug has occurred.
> 
> Let's do a recap on what we have discussed about this until now.
> 
> There are two conflicting error recovery mechanisms for PCIe. 
> 
> If a system supports both hotplug and DPC, endpoint can be removed
> and inserted safely.  DPC driver shuts down the driver on link down.
> When link comes back up, hotplug driver takes over and initiates an
> enumeration process.  Keith mentioned the stop and re-enumerate
> design was chosen because someone could remove a drive and insert an
> unrelated drive back to the system.  We can't really save and
> restore state as we do in the AER path. 
> 
> Now, let's assume a system without hotplug capability.  Second
> mechanism is to go through DPC/AER path and do an automatic link
> down recovery via DPC retrain/secondary bus reset including register
> save and restore.  Second mechanism is more suitable for handling
> "surprise link down" event. The goal is to retrain the link and
> continue driver operation. 
> 
> The goal of this patch to separate these two cases from each other
> as the DPC driver needs to work on both contexts. Current DPC code
> doesn't handle the second use case.

I think the scenario you are describing is two systems that are
identical except that in the first, the endpoint is below a hotplug
bridge, while in the second, it's below a non-hotplug bridge.  There's
no physical hotplug (no drive removed or inserted), and DPC is
triggered in both systems.

I suggest that DPC should be handled identically in both systems:

  - The PCI core should have the same view of the endpoint: it should
    be removed and re-added in both cases (or in neither case).

  - The endpoint itself should not be able to tell the difference: it
    should see a link down event, followed by a link retrain, followed
    by the same sequence of config accesses, etc.

  - The endpoint driver should not be able to tell the difference,
    i.e., we should be calling the same pci_error_handlers callbacks
    in both cases.

It's true that in the non-hotplug system, pciehp probably won't start
re-enumeration, so we might need an alternate path to trigger that.

But that's not what we're doing in this patch.  In this patch we're
adding a much bigger difference: for hotplug bridges, we stop and
remove the hierarchy below the bridge; for non-hotplug bridges, we do
the AER-style flow of calling pci_error_handlers callbacks.

Bjorn

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-12 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-09 14:41 [PATCH v13 0/6] Address error and recovery for AER and DPC Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-09 14:41 ` [PATCH v13 1/6] PCI/AER: Rename error recovery to generic PCI naming Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-09 23:14   ` Keith Busch
2018-04-09 14:41 ` [PATCH v13 2/6] PCI/AER: Factor out error reporting from AER Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-09 23:15   ` Keith Busch
2018-04-10 11:36   ` kbuild test robot
2018-04-09 14:41 ` [PATCH v13 3/6] PCI/PORTDRV: Implement generic find service Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-09 23:15   ` Keith Busch
2018-04-09 14:41 ` [PATCH v13 4/6] PCI/DPC: Unify and plumb error handling into DPC Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-09 23:29   ` Keith Busch
2018-04-09 23:51     ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-10  0:05       ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-09 14:41 ` [PATCH v13 5/6] PCI: Unify wait for link active into generic PCI Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-09 23:25   ` Keith Busch
2018-04-12  8:40     ` poza
2018-04-09 14:41 ` [PATCH v13 6/6] PCI/DPC: Do not do recovery for hotplug enabled system Oza Pawandeep
2018-04-10 21:03   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-04-12  1:41     ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-12 14:06       ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2018-04-12 14:34         ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-12 14:39           ` Keith Busch
2018-04-12 15:02             ` Keith Busch
2018-04-12 16:27               ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-12 17:09                 ` Keith Busch
2018-04-12 17:41                   ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-14 15:53                     ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-16  3:17                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-04-16  5:33                         ` poza
2018-04-16  5:51                           ` poza
2018-04-16 14:01                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-04-16 14:46                         ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-16 17:15                           ` poza
2018-04-16  3:16 ` [PATCH v13 0/6] Address error and recovery for AER and DPC Bjorn Helgaas
2018-04-16  3:53   ` Sinan Kaya
2018-04-16  6:03     ` poza
2018-04-16 13:27       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-04-16 14:12         ` poza
2018-04-16 14:30         ` Sinan Kaya

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