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From: Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <james.bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	eric.snowberg@oracle.com, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] x86/xen/efi: Initialize UEFI secure boot state during dom0 boot
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:04:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180416090452.GQ26100@olila.local.net-space.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu_1ydqYS+TBgYVEH9jTDEjSecBYxJbq_28mZJ9G3-T8EA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 10:15:15AM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On 11 April 2018 at 10:56, Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 12:38:24PM +0200, Daniel Kiper wrote:
> >> On Tue, Apr 03, 2018 at 10:00:52AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 2018-04-03 at 18:07 +0200, Daniel Kiper wrote:
> >> > > On Tue, Apr 03, 2018 at 08:44:41AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> > > > This looks like a bad idea: you're duplicating the secure boot
> >> > > > check in
> >> > > >
> >> > > > drivers/firmware/efi/libstub/secureboot.c
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Which is an implementation of policy.  If we have to have policy in
> >> > > > the kernel, it should really only be in one place to prevent drift;
> >> > > > why can't you simply use the libstub efi_get_secureboot() so we're
> >> > > > not duplicating the implementation of policy?
> >> > >
> >> > > Well, here is the first version of this patch:
> >> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/1/9/496 Ard did not like it. I was not
> >> > > happy too. In general both approaches are not perfect. More you can
> >> > > find in the discussion around this patchset. If you have better idea
> >> > > how to do that I am happy to implement it.
> >> >
> >> > One way might be simply to have the pre exit-boot-services code lay
> >> > down a variable containing the state which you pick up, rather than you
> >>
> >> Do you mean variable in kernel proper or something like that? If yes this
> >> is not possible. EFI Linux stub is not executed in Xen dom0. All UEFI
> >> infrastructure is owned and operated by Xen. Dom0 kernel can access some
> >> stuff in UEFI, including variables, via hypercall. However, when dom0
> >> runs only UEFI runtime services are available.
> >>
> >> > calling efi code separately and trying to use the insecure RT
> >>
> >> I am not sure why they are insecure.
> >>
> >> > variables.  That way there's a uniform view of the internal kernel
> >> > secure boot state that everyone can use.
> >>
> >> That would be perfect but I have a feeling that in form proposed above
> >> it is not possible.
> >
> > Ping?
> >
>
> (apologies if this is a duplicate email - I thought I had replied
> already but I don't see it in my sent folder)
>
> Queued in efi/next - thanks.

Thanks a lot!

Daniel

      reply	other threads:[~2018-04-16  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-03 14:39 Daniel Kiper
2018-04-03 15:44 ` James Bottomley
2018-04-03 16:07   ` Daniel Kiper
2018-04-03 17:00     ` James Bottomley
2018-04-04 10:38       ` Daniel Kiper
2018-04-11  8:56         ` Daniel Kiper
2018-04-16  8:15           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-04-16  9:04             ` Daniel Kiper [this message]

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