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Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:35:16 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:43304 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753049AbeDPSfO (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:35:14 -0400 DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org C41D22175C Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=rostedt@goodmis.org Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:35:10 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Sasha Levin Cc: Pavel Machek , Linus Torvalds , Petr Mladek , "stable@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "akpm@linux-foundation.org" , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , Cong Wang , Dave Hansen , Johannes Weiner , Mel Gorman , Michal Hocko , Vlastimil Babka , Peter Zijlstra , Jan Kara , Mathieu Desnoyers , Tetsuo Handa , Byungchul Park , Tejun Heo Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL for 4.14 015/161] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes Message-ID: <20180416143510.79ba5c63@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20180416181715.GM2341@sasha-vm> References: <20180415144248.GP2341@sasha-vm> <20180416093058.6edca0bb@gandalf.local.home> <20180416153031.GA5039@amd> <20180416155031.GX2341@sasha-vm> <20180416160608.GA7071@amd> <20180416161412.GZ2341@sasha-vm> <20180416170501.GB11034@amd> <20180416171607.GJ2341@sasha-vm> <20180416134423.2b60ff13@gandalf.local.home> <20180416181715.GM2341@sasha-vm> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: stable-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: stable@vger.kernel.org X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox: INBOX X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:17:17 +0000 Sasha Levin wrote: > I thought we agreed that this is bad? We wanted users to be closer to > mainline, and we can't do it without bringing -stable closer to mainline > as well. I guess the question comes down to, what do the users of stable kernels want? For my machines, I always stay one or two releases behind mainline. Right now my kernels are on 4.15.x, and will probably jump to 4.16.x the next time I upgrade my machines. I'm fine with something breaking every so often as long as it's not data corruption (although I have lots of backups of my systems in case that happens, just a PITA to fix it). I only hit bugs on these boxes probably once a year at most in doing so. But I mostly do what other kernel developers do and that means the bugs I would mostly hit, other developers hit before their code is released. Thus, if stable users are fine with being regression compatible with mainline, then I'm fine with it too. -- Steve