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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, aryabinin@virtuozzo.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, dvyukov@google.com, will.deacon@arm.com
Subject: [RFC PATCH] locking/atomics/powerpc: Clarify why the cmpxchg_relaxed() family of APIs falls back to full cmpxchg()
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 12:35:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180505103550.s7xsnto7tgppkmle@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180505101609.5wb56j4mspjkokmw@tardis>


* Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, May 05, 2018 at 11:38:29AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > * Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > So we could do the following simplification on top of that:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  #ifndef atomic_fetch_dec_relaxed
> > > > >  # ifndef atomic_fetch_dec
> > > > >  #  define atomic_fetch_dec(v)		atomic_fetch_sub(1, (v))
> > > > >  #  define atomic_fetch_dec_relaxed(v)	atomic_fetch_sub_relaxed(1, (v))
> > > > >  #  define atomic_fetch_dec_acquire(v)	atomic_fetch_sub_acquire(1, (v))
> > > > >  #  define atomic_fetch_dec_release(v)	atomic_fetch_sub_release(1, (v))
> > > > >  # else
> > > > >  #  define atomic_fetch_dec_relaxed		atomic_fetch_dec
> > > > >  #  define atomic_fetch_dec_acquire		atomic_fetch_dec
> > > > >  #  define atomic_fetch_dec_release		atomic_fetch_dec
> > > > >  # endif
> > > > >  #else
> > > > >  # ifndef atomic_fetch_dec
> > > > >  #  define atomic_fetch_dec(...)		__atomic_op_fence(atomic_fetch_dec, __VA_ARGS__)
> > > > >  #  define atomic_fetch_dec_acquire(...)	__atomic_op_acquire(atomic_fetch_dec, __VA_ARGS__)
> > > > >  #  define atomic_fetch_dec_release(...)	__atomic_op_release(atomic_fetch_dec, __VA_ARGS__)
> > > > >  # endif
> > > > >  #endif
> > > > 
> > > > This would disallow an architecture to override just fetch_dec_release for
> > > > instance.
> > > 
> > > Couldn't such a crazy arch just define _all_ the 3 APIs in this group?
> > > That's really a small price and makes the place pay the complexity
> > > price that does the weirdness...
> > > 
> > > > I don't think there currently is any architecture that does that, but the
> > > > intent was to allow it to override anything and only provide defaults where it
> > > > does not.
> > > 
> > > I'd argue that if a new arch only defines one of these APIs that's probably a bug. 
> > > If they absolutely want to do it, they still can - by defining all 3 APIs.
> > > 
> > > So there's no loss in arch flexibility.
> > 
> > BTW., PowerPC for example is already in such a situation, it does not define 
> > atomic_cmpxchg_release(), only the other APIs:
> > 
> > #define atomic_cmpxchg(v, o, n) (cmpxchg(&((v)->counter), (o), (n)))
> > #define atomic_cmpxchg_relaxed(v, o, n) \
> > 	cmpxchg_relaxed(&((v)->counter), (o), (n))
> > #define atomic_cmpxchg_acquire(v, o, n) \
> > 	cmpxchg_acquire(&((v)->counter), (o), (n))
> > 
> > Was it really the intention on the PowerPC side that the generic code falls back 
> > to cmpxchg(), i.e.:
> > 
> > #  define atomic_cmpxchg_release(...)           __atomic_op_release(atomic_cmpxchg, __VA_ARGS__)
> > 
> 
> So ppc has its own definition __atomic_op_release() in
> arch/powerpc/include/asm/atomic.h:
> 
> 	#define __atomic_op_release(op, args...)				\
> 	({									\
> 		__asm__ __volatile__(PPC_RELEASE_BARRIER "" : : : "memory");	\
> 		op##_relaxed(args);						\
> 	})
> 
> , and PPC_RELEASE_BARRIER is lwsync, so we map to
> 
> 	lwsync();
> 	atomic_cmpxchg_relaxed(v, o, n);
> 
> And the reason, why we don't define atomic_cmpxchg_release() but define
> atomic_cmpxchg_acquire() is that, atomic_cmpxchg_*() could provide no
> ordering guarantee if the cmp fails, we did this for
> atomic_cmpxchg_acquire() but not for atomic_cmpxchg_release(), because
> doing so may introduce a memory barrier inside a ll/sc critical section,
> please see the comment before __cmpxchg_u32_acquire() in
> arch/powerpc/include/asm/cmpxchg.h:
> 
> 	/*
> 	 * cmpxchg family don't have order guarantee if cmp part fails, therefore we
> 	 * can avoid superfluous barriers if we use assembly code to implement
> 	 * cmpxchg() and cmpxchg_acquire(), however we don't do the similar for
> 	 * cmpxchg_release() because that will result in putting a barrier in the
> 	 * middle of a ll/sc loop, which is probably a bad idea. For example, this
> 	 * might cause the conditional store more likely to fail.
> 	 */

Makes sense, thanks a lot for the explanation, missed that comment in the middle 
of the assembly functions!

So the patch I sent is buggy, please disregard it.

May I suggest the patch below? No change in functionality, but it documents the 
lack of the cmpxchg_release() APIs and maps them explicitly to the full cmpxchg() 
version. (Which the generic code does now in a rather roundabout way.)

Also, the change to arch/powerpc/include/asm/atomic.h has no functional effect 
right now either, but should anyone add a _relaxed() variant in the future, with 
this change atomic_cmpxchg_release() and atomic64_cmpxchg_release() will pick that 
up automatically.

Would this be acceptable?

Thanks,

	Ingo

---
 arch/powerpc/include/asm/atomic.h  |  4 ++++
 arch/powerpc/include/asm/cmpxchg.h | 13 +++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 17 insertions(+)

diff --git a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/atomic.h b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/atomic.h
index 682b3e6a1e21..f7a6f29acb12 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/atomic.h
+++ b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/atomic.h
@@ -213,6 +213,8 @@ static __inline__ int atomic_dec_return_relaxed(atomic_t *v)
 	cmpxchg_relaxed(&((v)->counter), (o), (n))
 #define atomic_cmpxchg_acquire(v, o, n) \
 	cmpxchg_acquire(&((v)->counter), (o), (n))
+#define atomic_cmpxchg_release(v, o, n) \
+	cmpxchg_release(&((v)->counter), (o), (n))
 
 #define atomic_xchg(v, new) (xchg(&((v)->counter), new))
 #define atomic_xchg_relaxed(v, new) xchg_relaxed(&((v)->counter), (new))
@@ -519,6 +521,8 @@ static __inline__ long atomic64_dec_if_positive(atomic64_t *v)
 	cmpxchg_relaxed(&((v)->counter), (o), (n))
 #define atomic64_cmpxchg_acquire(v, o, n) \
 	cmpxchg_acquire(&((v)->counter), (o), (n))
+#define atomic64_cmpxchg_release(v, o, n) \
+	cmpxchg_release(&((v)->counter), (o), (n))
 
 #define atomic64_xchg(v, new) (xchg(&((v)->counter), new))
 #define atomic64_xchg_relaxed(v, new) xchg_relaxed(&((v)->counter), (new))
diff --git a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/cmpxchg.h b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/cmpxchg.h
index 9b001f1f6b32..1f1d35062f3a 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/cmpxchg.h
+++ b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/cmpxchg.h
@@ -512,6 +512,13 @@ __cmpxchg_acquire(void *ptr, unsigned long old, unsigned long new,
 			(unsigned long)_o_, (unsigned long)_n_,		\
 			sizeof(*(ptr)));				\
 })
+
+/*
+ * cmpxchg_release() falls back to a full cmpxchg(),
+ * see the comments at __cmpxchg_u32_acquire():
+ */
+#define cmpxchg_release cmpxchg
+
 #ifdef CONFIG_PPC64
 #define cmpxchg64(ptr, o, n)						\
   ({									\
@@ -538,5 +545,11 @@ __cmpxchg_acquire(void *ptr, unsigned long old, unsigned long new,
 #define cmpxchg64_local(ptr, o, n) __cmpxchg64_local_generic((ptr), (o), (n))
 #endif
 
+/*
+ * cmpxchg64_release() falls back to a full cmpxchg(),
+ * see the comments at __cmpxchg_u32_acquire():
+ */
+#define cmpxchg64_release cmpxchg64
+
 #endif /* __KERNEL__ */
 #endif /* _ASM_POWERPC_CMPXCHG_H_ */

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-05 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-04 17:39 [PATCH 0/6] arm64: add instrumented atomics Mark Rutland
2018-05-04 17:39 ` [PATCH 1/6] locking/atomic, asm-generic: instrument ordering variants Mark Rutland
2018-05-04 18:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-04 18:09     ` Mark Rutland
2018-05-04 18:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-05  9:12         ` Mark Rutland
2018-05-05  8:11       ` [PATCH] locking/atomics: Clean up the atomic.h maze of #defines Ingo Molnar
2018-05-05  8:36         ` [PATCH] locking/atomics: Simplify the op definitions in atomic.h some more Ingo Molnar
2018-05-05  8:54           ` [PATCH] locking/atomics: Combine the atomic_andnot() and atomic64_andnot() API definitions Ingo Molnar
2018-05-06 12:15             ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2018-05-06 14:15             ` [PATCH] " Andrea Parri
2018-05-06 12:14           ` [tip:locking/core] locking/atomics: Simplify the op definitions in atomic.h some more tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2018-05-09  7:33             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-09 13:03               ` Will Deacon
2018-05-15  8:54                 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-15  8:35               ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-15 11:41                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-15 12:13                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-15 15:43                   ` Mark Rutland
2018-05-15 17:10                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-15 17:53                       ` Mark Rutland
2018-05-15 18:11                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-15 18:15                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-15 18:52                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-15 19:39                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-21 17:12                           ` Mark Rutland
2018-05-06 14:12           ` [PATCH] " Andrea Parri
2018-05-06 14:57             ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-07  9:54               ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-18 18:43               ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-05-05  8:47         ` [PATCH] locking/atomics: Clean up the atomic.h maze of #defines Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-05  9:04           ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-05  9:24             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-05  9:38             ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-05 10:00               ` [RFC PATCH] locking/atomics/powerpc: Introduce optimized cmpxchg_release() family of APIs for PowerPC Ingo Molnar
2018-05-05 10:26                 ` Boqun Feng
2018-05-06  1:56                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-05-05 10:16               ` [PATCH] locking/atomics: Clean up the atomic.h maze of #defines Boqun Feng
2018-05-05 10:35                 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2018-05-05 11:28                   ` [RFC PATCH] locking/atomics/powerpc: Clarify why the cmpxchg_relaxed() family of APIs falls back to full cmpxchg() Boqun Feng
2018-05-05 13:27                     ` [PATCH] locking/atomics/powerpc: Move cmpxchg helpers to asm/cmpxchg.h and define the full set of cmpxchg APIs Ingo Molnar
2018-05-05 14:03                       ` Boqun Feng
2018-05-06 12:11                         ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-07  1:04                           ` Boqun Feng
2018-05-07  6:50                             ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-06 12:13                     ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Boqun Feng
2018-05-07 13:31                       ` [PATCH v2] " Boqun Feng
2018-05-05  9:05           ` [PATCH] locking/atomics: Clean up the atomic.h maze of #defines Dmitry Vyukov
2018-05-05  9:32             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-07  6:43               ` [RFC PATCH] locking/atomics/x86/64: Clean up and fix details of <asm/atomic64_64.h> Ingo Molnar
2018-05-05  9:09           ` [PATCH] locking/atomics: Clean up the atomic.h maze of #defines Ingo Molnar
2018-05-05  9:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-05 10:48               ` [PATCH] locking/atomics: Shorten the __atomic_op() defines to __op() Ingo Molnar
2018-05-05 10:59                 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-06 12:15                 ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2018-05-06 12:14         ` [tip:locking/core] locking/atomics: Clean up the atomic.h maze of #defines tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2018-05-04 17:39 ` [PATCH 2/6] locking/atomic, asm-generic: instrument atomic*andnot*() Mark Rutland
2018-05-04 17:39 ` [PATCH 3/6] arm64: use <linux/atomic.h> for cmpxchg Mark Rutland
2018-05-04 17:39 ` [PATCH 4/6] arm64: fix assembly constraints " Mark Rutland
2018-05-04 17:39 ` [PATCH 5/6] arm64: use instrumented atomics Mark Rutland
2018-05-04 17:39 ` [PATCH 6/6] arm64: instrument smp_{load_acquire,store_release} Mark Rutland

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