From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: Lazy FPU restoration / moving kernel_fpu_end() to context switch
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 21:34:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180615193438.GE2458@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1806151815080.1582@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 06:25:39PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> > In a loop this looks like:
> >
> > for (thing) {
> > kernel_fpu_begin();
> > encrypt(thing);
> > kernel_fpu_end();
> > }
> >
> > This is obviously very bad, because begin() and end() are slow, so
> > WireGuard does the obvious:
> >
> > kernel_fpu_begin();
> > for (thing)
> > encrypt(thing);
> > kernel_fpu_end();
> >
> > This is fine and well, and the crypto API I'm working on will enable
>
> It might be fine crypto performance wise, but it's a total nightmare
> latency wise because kernel_fpu_begin() disables preemption. We've seen
> latencies in the larger millisecond range due to processing large data sets
> with kernel FPU.
>
> If you want to go there then we really need a better approach which allows
> kernel FPU usage in preemptible context and in case of preemption a way to
> stash the preempted FPU context and restore it when the task gets scheduled
> in again. Just using the existing FPU stuff and moving the loops inside the
> begin/end section and keeping preemption disabled for arbitrary time spans
> is not going to fly.
Didn't we recently do a bunch of crypto patches to help with this?
I think they had the pattern:
kernel_fpu_begin();
for (units-of-work) {
do_unit_of_work();
if (need_resched()) {
kernel_fpu_end();
cond_resched();
kernel_fpu_begin();
}
}
kernel_fpu_end();
I'd have to go dig out the actual series, but I think they had a bunch
of helpers to deal with that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-15 19:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-15 13:11 Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-15 16:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-15 18:33 ` Brian Gerst
2018-06-15 19:34 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-06-15 20:30 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-18 9:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-18 15:25 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-15 18:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-15 18:40 ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-15 18:41 ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-15 18:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-15 18:48 ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-15 18:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-15 20:27 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-15 20:48 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-19 11:43 ` David Laight
2018-06-19 13:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-15 20:33 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-15 20:42 ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-15 20:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-15 20:56 ` Rik van Riel
2018-07-11 16:28 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-07-11 20:10 ` Rik van Riel
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