From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CB4C43141 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 02:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D3220875 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 02:21:45 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 14D3220875 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=mielke.cc Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754279AbeFUCVn (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:21:43 -0400 Received: from nimbus1.mmprivatehosting.com ([54.208.90.49]:57992 "EHLO nimbus1.mmprivatehosting.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754065AbeFUCVl (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:21:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nimbus1.mmprivatehosting.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E31F60028; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 02:21:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mmprivatehosting.com Received: from dave.mielke.cc (CPEc8be196b689f-CMac202ebc50a0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [174.115.138.203]) (Authenticated sender: relay@dave.mielke.cc) by nimbus1.mmprivatehosting.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 02:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.private.mielke.cc (beta.private.mielke.cc [192.168.0.2]) by dave.mielke.cc (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FC154B2; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beta.private.mielke.cc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.private.mielke.cc (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w5L2LdbC006170; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:21:39 -0400 Received: (from dave@localhost) by beta.private.mielke.cc (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w5L2LbP3006169; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:21:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:21:37 -0400 From: Dave Mielke To: Adam Borowski Cc: Nicolas Pitre , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Samuel Thibault , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] have the vt console preserve unicode characters Message-ID: <20180621022137.GB18453@beta.private.mielke.cc> References: <20180617190706.14614-1-nicolas.pitre@linaro.org> <20180619130953.bxil552igfkckjmr@angband.pl> <20180621014317.ebslk3gwvpq3k6sq@angband.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20180621014317.ebslk3gwvpq3k6sq@angband.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.0 (2018-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org [quoted lines by Adam Borowski on 2018/06/21 at 03:43 +0200] >It's meant for displaying braille to _sighted_ people. And in real world, >the main [ab]use is a way to show images that won't get corrupted by >proportional fonts. :-þ It's not abuse at all. I often use U+28xx to show sighted people what the braille for something looks like. I often need to do this when, for example, I need them to comapre what I'm showing them to what's on an actual braille display. U+28xx is the only way for me to do this without a lengthy description containing sequences of dot number combinations. Also, U+28xx is the only reasonable way to share braille music between people who use different languages. >The primary users would be: >* people who want symbols uncorrupted (especially if their language uses a > non-latin script) >* CJK people (as discussed below) Again, that's not true. Why aren't braille users included in this list? After all, it's we who motivated this enhancement. I guess actual blind people mustn't count just because there are relatively fewer of us. :-( -- I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ Dave Mielke | 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ EMail: Dave@Mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 |