From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F343C43142 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 14:46:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289D9243E8 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 14:46:15 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="aeub3hYu" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 289D9243E8 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933292AbeFVOqN (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Jun 2018 10:46:13 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.133]:44838 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751649AbeFVOqM (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Jun 2018 10:46:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=aCu3YLrBQEG8gVJ26ShhjCpYlzfv0ByV0orY+NSZLAs=; b=aeub3hYuhqpECFKfNJ6KswCY/ Z2Rt4R5BqfUae1L9bkzXh3rZTwTVARiXWXs2KwLwWpvgNXLPS0KODUUkXfhCoFRBx9Mf8NOTRmHEc ReHC9TY5QzMJHJmU+sYDNXMd4sJjX9SGhGxQG7U87Pif47Bwemim0l4CAH7XsWDRCK0x/wfpwbIQy REJQ10Fo5Iux3DehFTQPEXnJ8ZX79ZqPGEYjgk4gGKOaEpuG9WmdVitJ9A98Nn6k+XFWfaRyXYil6 RLKIRUw7IS1na4y6P7/BiF9kyuu/EGxSpheJKpnAe0B5XpkODNgjyOikfOtpCYOba0Wz+aHQEqyOS nrZNeNI3Q==; Received: from j217100.upc-j.chello.nl ([24.132.217.100] helo=hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.90_1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1fWNK9-0008JP-NG; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 14:46:05 +0000 Received: by hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C55572029FA0E; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:46:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:46:03 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Vincent Guittot Cc: Quentin Perret , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Juri Lelli , Dietmar Eggemann , Morten Rasmussen , viresh kumar , Valentin Schneider , Patrick Bellasi , Joel Fernandes , Daniel Lezcano , Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 04/11] cpufreq/schedutil: use rt utilization tracking Message-ID: <20180622144603.GR2476@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <1528459794-13066-1-git-send-email-vincent.guittot@linaro.org> <1528459794-13066-5-git-send-email-vincent.guittot@linaro.org> <20180621184524.GB27616@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20180622075853.GC23168@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com> <20180622113713.GJ2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20180622132624.GL2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.0 (2018-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 03:57:24PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 at 15:54, Vincent Guittot > wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 at 15:26, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > And that is my objection to that straight sum thing; there the dl util > > > distorts the computed dl bandwidth thing even if there is no cfs > > > utilization. > > > > hmm, > > forgot to finish this sentence > > hmm, dl util_avg is only used to detect is there is idle time so if > cfs util is nul we will not distort the dl bw (for a use case where > there is no rt task running) Hurm.. let me apply those patches and read the result, because I think I missed something.