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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	acme@kernel.org, alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com,
	jolsa@redhat.com, namhyung@kernel.org,
	"open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 PATCH 2/2] mm: mmap: zap pages with read mmap_sem for large mapping
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:14:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180625091455.GH28965@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94bdfcf0-68ea-404c-a60f-362f677884b6@linux.alibaba.com>

On Fri 22-06-18 18:01:08, Yang Shi wrote:
> Yes, this is true but I guess what Yang Shi meant was that an userspace
> > > access racing with munmap is not well defined. You never know whether
> > > you get your data, #PTF or SEGV because it depends on timing. The user
> > > visible change might be that you lose content and get zero page instead
> > > if you hit the race window while we are unmapping which was not possible
> > > before. But whouldn't such an access pattern be buggy anyway? You need
> > > some form of external synchronization AFAICS.
> > > 
> > > But maybe some userspace depends on "getting right data or get SEGV"
> > > semantic. If we have to preserve that then we can come up with a VM_DEAD
> > > flag set before we tear it down and force the SEGV on the #PF path.
> > > Something similar we already do for MMF_UNSTABLE.
> > 
> > Set VM_DEAD with read mmap_sem held? It should be ok since this is the
> > only place to set this flag for this unique special case.
> 
> BTW, it looks the vm flags have used up in 32 bit. If we really need
> VM_DEAD, it should be for both 32-bit and 64-bit.

Do we really need any special handling for 32b? Who is going to create
GB mappings for all this to be worth doing?

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-25  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-18 23:34 [RFC v2 0/2] mm: zap pages with read mmap_sem in munmap " Yang Shi
2018-06-18 23:34 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 1/2] uprobes: make vma_has_uprobes non-static Yang Shi
2018-06-18 23:34 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 2/2] mm: mmap: zap pages with read mmap_sem for large mapping Yang Shi
2018-06-19 10:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 21:13     ` Yang Shi
2018-06-20  7:17       ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-20 16:23         ` Yang Shi
2018-06-19 22:17   ` Nadav Amit
     [not found]     ` <158a4e4c-d290-77c4-a595-71332ede392b@linux.alibaba.com>
2018-06-20  0:31       ` Nadav Amit
2018-06-20  7:18         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-20 17:12           ` Nadav Amit
2018-06-20 18:42           ` Yang Shi
2018-06-23  1:01             ` Yang Shi
2018-06-25  9:14               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-06-26  0:06           ` Yang Shi
2018-06-26  7:43             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-27  1:03               ` Yang Shi
2018-06-27  7:24                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-27 17:23                   ` Yang Shi
2018-06-28 11:51                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-28 19:10                       ` Yang Shi
2018-06-29  0:59                         ` Yang Shi
2018-06-29 11:39                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-29 16:50                             ` Yang Shi
2018-06-29 11:34                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-29 16:45                           ` Yang Shi

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