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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	oleg@redhat.com, joel@joelfernandes.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/22] rcu: Fix grace-period hangs due to race with CPU offline
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 10:26:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180628082653.GX2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180628051334.GG3593@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:13:34PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 07:51:34PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 08:57:21AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > Another variant, which simply skips the wakeup whever ran on an offline
> > > > CPU, relying on the wakeup from rcutree_migrate_callbacks() right after
> > > > the CPU really is dead.
> > > 
> > > Cute!  ;-)
> > > 
> > > And a much smaller change.
> > > 
> > > However, this means that if someone indirectly and erroneously causes
> > > rcu_report_qs_rsp() to be invoked from an offline CPU, the result is an
> > > intermittent and difficult-to-debug grace-period hang.  A lockdep splat
> > > whose stack trace directly implicates the culprit is much better.
> > 
> > How so? We do an unconditional wakeup right after finding the offline
> > cpu dead. There is only very limited code between offline being true and
> > the CPU reporting in dead.
> 
> I am thinking more generally than this particular patch.  People
> sometimes invoke things from places they shouldn't, for example, the
> situation leading to your patch that allows use of RCU much earlier in
> the CPU-online process.  It is nicer to get a splat in those situations
> than a silent hang.

The rcu_rnp_online_cpus() thing would catch that, right? The public RCU
API isn't that big, and should already complain afaict.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-28  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-26  0:20 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/22] Grace-period fixes for v4.19 Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/22] rcu: Clean up handling of tasks blocked across full-rcu_node offline Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/22] rcu: Fix an obsolete ->qsmaskinit comment Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/22] rcu: Make rcu_init_new_rnp() stop upon already-set bit Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/22] rcu: Make rcu_report_unblock_qs_rnp() warn on violated preconditions Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/22] rcu: Fix typo and add additional debug Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/22] rcu: Replace smp_wmb() with smp_store_release() for stall check Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/22] rcu: Prevent useless FQS scan after all CPUs have checked in Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/22] rcu: Suppress false-positive offline-CPU lockdep-RCU splat Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/22] rcu: Suppress false-positive preempted-task splats Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/22] rcu: Suppress more involved " Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/22] rcu: Suppress false-positive splats from mid-init task resume Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/22] rcu: Fix grace-period hangs " Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/22] rcu: Fix grace-period hangs due to race with CPU offline Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-26 18:19     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 19:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-26 20:40         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-26 18:29     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 20:07       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-26 20:26       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 20:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-26 23:40           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-27  8:33             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-27 15:43               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-27  9:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-27  9:46               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-27 15:57                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-27 17:51                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-28  5:13                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-28  8:26                       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-06-28 12:38                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-28 13:06                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-29  4:30                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-27 15:53               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 14/22] rcu: Add RCU-preempt check for waiting on newly onlined CPU Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 15/22] rcu: Move grace-period pre-init delay after pre-init Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 16/22] rcu: Remove failsafe check for lost quiescent state Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 17/22] rcutorture: Change units of onoff_interval to jiffies Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 18/22] rcu: Remove CPU-hotplug failsafe from force-quiescent-state code path Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 19/22] rcu: Add up-tree information to dump_blkd_tasks() diagnostics Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 20/22] rcu: Add CPU online/offline state to dump_blkd_tasks() Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 21/22] rcu: Record ->gp_state for both phases of grace-period initialization Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-26 17:10 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 22/22] rcu: Add diagnostics for offline CPUs failing to report QS Paul E. McKenney

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