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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>
Cc: Gabriel C <nix.or.die@gmail.com>,
	Benjamin Gilbert <bgilbert@redhat.com>,
	linux-x86_64@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	bero@lindev.ch, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Michal Marek <michal.lkml@markovi.net>
Subject: Re: 4.17.x won't boot due to "x86/boot/compressed/64: Handle 5-level paging boot if kernel is above 4G"
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 19:29:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180706162928.73jfqtdwdcwtagui@kshutemo-mobl1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK7LNAS9VuoUakpYEfdo5Bki4eic1QuruvNOfra8oUWUn0embA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 11:13:02PM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> >> LDFLAGS is for internal-use.
> >> Please do not override it from the command line.
> >
> > Can we generate a build error if a user try to override LDFLAGS, CFLAGS or
> > other critical internal-use-only variables?
> 
> Yes, Make can check where variables came from.

I think we should do this.

> >> make LDFLAGS_KERNEL=...  LDFLAGS_MODULE=...
> >> will allow you to append linker flags.
> >
> > Okay. It makes me wounder if we should taint kernel in such cases?
> > Custom compiler/linker flags are risky and can lead to weird bugs.
> 
> OK.
> So, what problem are we discussing?

Users set custom LDFLAGS/CFLAGS and break kernel. Then report bug that
hard to debug. See

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200385

and start of this thread:

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20180701213243.GA20180@trogon.sfo.coreos.systems/

It took me a while to track down the issue. I blamed linker for a while.

> > I've got it wrong. *Any* LDFLAGS option passed to make this way:
> >
> >  make LDFLAGS="..."
> 
> In your previous mail, I thought you were asking me how to pass
> custom linker flags.
> 
> If not, we do not need to think about that case.
> Just say "Do not do that".

At least we need to make user aware about risk of setting custom flags.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-07-06 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAF=P+=5c-baQp-CK1ViG8h=mMRv6d3EgEsN_U4rbBx-Pwv_Krw@mail.gmail.com>
2018-07-01 21:32 ` Benjamin Gilbert
2018-07-02  9:34   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-02 19:01     ` Benjamin Gilbert
2018-07-03  8:30       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-03  8:59         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-07-03 11:01           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-03 11:24   ` Gabriel C
2018-07-03 12:44     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-03 14:02       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-07-03 14:07         ` Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
2018-07-03 14:19           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-07-03 14:21       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-03 14:27         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-07-03 18:03         ` Andi Kleen
2018-07-03 20:26           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-03 21:00             ` Andi Kleen
2018-07-04  3:10         ` Benjamin Gilbert
2018-07-04 13:21           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-04 15:08         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-04 20:42           ` Benjamin Gilbert
2018-07-06  6:37           ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-07-06 10:41             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-06 14:13               ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-07-06 14:39                 ` Gabriel C
2018-07-06 16:33                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-06 17:31                     ` Gabriel C
2018-07-07  0:55                   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-07-06 16:29                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2018-07-06 18:11                   ` Andi Kleen
2018-07-06 19:34                     ` Benjamin Gilbert
2018-07-07  1:21                   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-07-09 10:10                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-09 10:37                       ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-07-25 17:26 Dmitry Malkin
2018-07-25 21:21 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-26  8:10   ` Dmitry Malkin
2018-07-26 14:50     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-26 16:21       ` Dmitry Malkin
2018-07-27 13:46         ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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