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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>,
	Chenbo Feng <fengc@google.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tim Murray <timmurray@google.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Add BPF_SYNCHRONIZE bpf(2) command
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:23:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180716202301.GB160902@joelaf.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKOZuetwbE2HSa7vfVoVYwSqfz0ZcNWO93Y=pcJ-q4uEWHSuNg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 08:29:47AM -0700, Daniel Colascione wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 08:40:19PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > [..]
> >> > The kernel program might do:
> >> >
> >> > =====
> >> > const int current_map_key = 1;
> >> > void *current_map = bpf_map_lookup_elem(outer_map, &current_map_key);
> >> >
> >> > int stats_key = 42;
> >> > uint64_t *stats_value = bpf_map_lookup_elem(current_map, &stats_key);
> >> > __sync_fetch_and_add(&stats_value, 1);
> >> > =====
> >> >
> >> > If a userspace does:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Write new fd to outer_map[1].
> >> > 2. Call BPF_SYNC_MAP_ACCESS.
> >> > 3. Start deleting everything in the old map.
> >> >
> >> > How can we guarantee that the __sync_fetch_and_add will not add to the
> >> > old map?
> >>
> >> without any changes to the kernel sys_membarrier will work.
> >> And that's what folks use already.
> >> BPF_SYNC_MAP_ACCESS implemented via synchronize_rcu() will work
> >> as well whether in the current implementation where rcu_lock/unlock
> >> is done outside of the program and in the future when
> >> rcu_lock/unlock are called by the program itself.
> >
> > Cool Alexei and Lorenzo, sounds great to me. Daniel want to send a follow up
> > patch with BPF_SYNC_MAP_ACCESS changes then?
> 
> Will do. Mind if I just mine this thread for the doc comment?

Do you mean the changelog? Yes I believe you could use the discussion in this
thread for the rationale as Alexei described.

thanks,

- Joel



  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-16 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-07  1:56 Daniel Colascione
2018-07-07  2:54 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-07-07  3:22   ` Daniel Colascione
2018-07-07 20:33   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-08 20:54     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-09 21:09       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-07-09 21:35         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-09 22:19           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-09 22:19             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-07-09 22:48               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-09 21:36         ` Daniel Colascione
2018-07-09 22:10           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-07-09 22:21             ` Daniel Colascione
2018-07-09 22:34               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-07-10  5:25                 ` Chenbo Feng
2018-07-10 23:52                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-07-11  2:46                     ` Lorenzo Colitti
2018-07-11  3:40                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-07-14 18:18                         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-16 15:29                           ` Daniel Colascione
2018-07-16 20:23                             ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2018-07-26 16:51                               ` [PATCH v2] Add BPF_SYNCHRONIZE_MAPS " Daniel Colascione
2018-07-10  5:13       ` [RFC] Add BPF_SYNCHRONIZE " Joel Fernandes
2018-07-10 16:42         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-10 16:57           ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-10 17:12             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-10 17:29               ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-10 17:42                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-29 15:57 Alexei Starovoitov
2018-07-30 22:26 ` Joel Fernandes

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