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From: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: jbaron@akamai.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next 0/2] fs/epoll: loosen irq safety when possible
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 17:22:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180721002254.kwsdw7xhlogx7fr4@linux-r8p5> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180720134429.1ba61018934b084bb2e17bdb@linux-foundation.org>

On Fri, 20 Jul 2018, Andrew Morton wrote:

>Did you try measuring it on bare hardware?

I did and wasn't expecting much difference.

For a 2-socket 40-core (ht) IvyBridge on a few workloads, unfortunately
I don't have a xen environment and the results for Xen I do have (which numbers
are in patch 1) I don't have the actual workload, so cannot compare them directly.

1) Different configurations were used for a epoll_wait (pipes io) microbench
(http://linux-scalability.org/epoll/epoll-test.c) and shows around a 7-10%
improvement in overall total number of times the epoll_wait() loops when using
both regular and nested epolls, so very raw numbers, but measurable nonetheless.

# threads	vanilla		dirty
     1		1677717		1805587
     2		1660510		1854064
     4		1610184		1805484
     8		1577696		1751222
     16		1568837		1725299
     32		1291532		1378463
     64		 752584		 787368

Note that stddev is pretty small.

2) Another pipe test, which shows no real measurable improvement.
(http://www.xmailserver.org/linux-patches/pipetest.c)

>> >
>> >I'd have more confidence if we had some warning mechanism if we run
>> >spin_lock_irq() when IRQs are disabled, which is probably-a-bug.  But
>> >afaict we don't have that.  Probably for good reasons - I wonder what
>> >they are?
>
>Well ignored ;)
>
>We could open-code it locally.  Add a couple of
>WARN_ON_ONCE(irqs_disabled())?  That might need re-benchmarking with
>Xen but surely just reading the thing isn't too expensive?

I agree, I'll see what I can come up with and also ask the customer to test
in his setup. Bare metal would also need some new numbers I guess.

Thanks,
Davidlohr

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-21  0:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-20 17:29 Davidlohr Bueso
2018-07-20 17:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] fs/epoll: loosen irq safety in ep_scan_ready_list() Davidlohr Bueso
2018-07-20 17:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs/epoll: loosen irq safety in epoll_insert() and epoll_remove() Davidlohr Bueso
2018-07-20 19:42 ` [PATCH -next 0/2] fs/epoll: loosen irq safety when possible Andrew Morton
2018-07-20 20:05   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2018-07-20 20:44     ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-21  0:22       ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2018-07-21 17:21       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2018-07-21 17:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-21 18:31           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2018-07-24 23:43             ` Andrew Morton
2018-09-06 19:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-06 20:55       ` Davidlohr Bueso

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