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From: Alexei Colin <acolin@isi.edu>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Alex Bounine <alex.bou9@gmail.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	John Paul Walters <jwalters@isi.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] arm64: enable RapidIO menu in Kconfig
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 09:54:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180801135441.GD38497@guest228.east.isi.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180801103855.GD30658@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>

> > Why we cannot use "select HAS_RAPIDIO" HW-specific Kconfig file
> > (mach-*/Kconfig)? And have on-chip port selection in the same board-specific
> > place.
> 
> As I've already explained, HAS_RAPIDIO has the expectation that it
> controls the availability of the RAPIDIO option, not of drivers.
> It is HAS_*RAPIDIO*, the clue is in the name.  Using it as you are
> (basically, to mean that on-SoC rapidio hardware is present) and
> allowing such configurations as HAS_RAPIDIO=n RAPIDIO=y PCI=y is
> completely counter-intuitive.

The intention in the patch was for HAS_RAPIDIO to mean exactly "on-SoC
RapidIO hardware is present". Since the name does not reflect that well,
I'll change it in the next version: would HAS_RAPIDIO_ONCHIP reflect the
meaning well? 

HAS_RAPIDIO=n RAPIDIO=y PCI=y should be an intuitive configuration,
for example for MIPS until last week it effectively was the only option
https://www.linux-mips.org/archives/linux-mips/2018-07/msg00584.html
If we have to rename to make this configuration intuitive again, then
I'll rename and resubmit.

There was never the intention to assign any other meaning to
HAS_RAPIDIO, specifically that it controls the availability of the
RAPIDIO menu option. I think interpreting it this way is is behind a lot
of the issues raised. The intention is that availability of the menu
options is controlled by (1) whether the architecture sources the
rapidio/Kconfig and (2) whether dependencies of RapidIO are satisfied
(either having a PCI bus and enabling it, or having the on-SoC RapidIO
hardware.

The patch does not indend to change the current meaning and usage of the
config options and behavior for X86, PPC, MIPS -- the patch only
refactors there (because it was requested). For ARM and ARM64, we are
adding the same behavior in same way as for those three architectures. I
assume there is nothing that sets ARM and ARM64 apart from the others in
this narrow context. This is the indended scope of this patch. Are we
now discussing a change in the current meaning/usage/behavior?  If so,
could we do one piece at a time -- first, add ARM and ARM64 in the way
consistent with the way other architectures currently do it?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-01 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-30 22:50 [PATCH 0/6] rapidio: move Kconfig menu definition to subsystem Alexei Colin
2018-07-30 22:50 ` [PATCH 1/6] rapidio: define top Kconfig menu in driver subtree Alexei Colin
2018-07-30 22:50 ` [PATCH 2/6] x86: factor out RapidIO Kconfig menu Alexei Colin
2018-07-30 22:55   ` [PATCH 2/6] x86: factor out RapidIO Kconfig menu; Thomas Gleixner
2018-07-31 14:30     ` Alex Bounine
2018-07-30 22:50 ` [PATCH 3/6] powerpc: factor out RapidIO Kconfig menu entry Alexei Colin
2018-07-31  9:45   ` Michael Ellerman
2018-07-30 22:50 ` [PATCH 4/6] mips: factor out RapidIO Kconfig entry Alexei Colin
2018-07-31  8:13   ` Alexander Sverdlin
2018-07-30 22:50 ` [PATCH 5/6] arm: enable RapidIO menu in Kconfig Alexei Colin
2018-07-31 12:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-31 12:43     ` Alex Bounine
2018-07-31 12:48       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-07-31 13:15         ` Alex Bounine
2018-07-30 22:50 ` [PATCH 6/6] arm64: " Alexei Colin
2018-07-31  8:41   ` Will Deacon
2018-07-31 12:54     ` Alex Bounine
2018-07-31 15:52       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-07-31 17:59         ` Alex Bounine
2018-07-31 18:18           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-07-31 20:01             ` Alex Bounine
2018-08-01 10:38               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-08-01 13:54                 ` Alexei Colin [this message]
2018-08-01 15:14                 ` Alex Bounine
2018-07-31 20:29       ` Alex Bounine
2018-07-31 20:46         ` Alexei Colin
2018-08-01 13:57           ` Alex Bounine
2018-08-01  9:10         ` Will Deacon
2018-07-30 22:59 ` [PATCH 0/6] rapidio: move Kconfig menu definition to subsystem Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-07-31  1:08 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-07-31 14:26 ` Alex Bounine

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