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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rcu: Use cpus_read_lock() while looking at cpu_online_mask
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 23:33:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181015153348.GB8952@tardis> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181015150902.asifwhikqkz53ai4@linutronix.de>

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On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 05:09:03PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2018-10-15 23:07:15 [+0800], Boqun Feng wrote:
> > Hi, Sebastian
> Hi Boqun,
> 
> > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 04:42:17PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > On 2018-10-13 06:48:13 [-0700], Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > My concern would be that it would queue it by default for the current
> > > > CPU, which would serialize the processing, losing the concurrency of
> > > > grace-period initialization.  But that was a long time ago, and perhaps
> > > > workqueues have changed. 
> > > 
> > > but the code here is always using the first CPU of a NUMA node or did I
> > > miss something?
> > > 
> > 
> > The thing is the original way is to pick one CPU for a *RCU* node to
> > run the grace-period work, but with your proposal, if a RCU node is
> > smaller than a NUMA node (having fewer CPUs), we could end up having two
> > grace-period works running on one CPU. I think that's Paul's concern.
> 
> Ah. Okay. From what I observed, the RCU nodes and NUMA nodes were 1:1
> here. Noted.

Ok, in that case, there should be no significant performance difference.

> Given that I can enqueue a work item on an offlined CPU I don't see why
> commit fcc6354365015 ("rcu: Make expedited GPs handle CPU 0 being
> offline") should make a difference. Any objections to just revert it?

Well, that commit is trying to avoid queue a work on an offlined CPU,
because according to workqueue API, it's the users' responsibility to
make sure the CPU is online when a work item enqueued. So there is a
difference ;-)

But I don't have any objection to revert it with your proposal, since
yours is more simple and straight-forward, and doesn't perform worse if
NUMA nodes and RCU nodes have one-to-one corresponding.

Besides, I think even if we observe some performance difference in the
future, the best way to solve that is to make workqueue have a more
fine-grained affine group than a NUMA node.

Regards,
Boqun

> 
> > Regards,
> > Boqun
> 
> Sebastian

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-15 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-10 13:56 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-09-11 16:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-09-11 16:21   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-09-11 17:02     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-09-19 20:55       ` Tejun Heo
2018-09-19 22:11         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-10-12 18:41           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-13 13:48             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-10-15 14:42               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-15 15:07                 ` Boqun Feng
2018-10-15 15:09                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-15 15:33                     ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2018-10-15 16:36                       ` Paul E. McKenney

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