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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: vbabka@suse.cz, hpa@zytor.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	ak@linux.intel.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de
Subject: Re: l1tf: Kernel suggests I throw away third of my memory. I'd rather not
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 14:17:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181017121705.GQ18839@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181017113226.GA5176@amd>

On Wed 17-10-18 13:32:26, Pavel Machek wrote:
[...]
> > > Now question is... can we do better? Kernel stores information about
> > > swapped-out pages there, right? That sounds like a cool hack, but
> > > maybe it is time to get rid of that hack?
> > 
> > Patches are welcome.
> 
> Cooperation will be needed if you want to see patches. As
> in... answering the questions above.

The question is whether that is really worth it. L1TF is mostly about
virtual environments. If you are running in a native HW then I wouldn't
lose much sleep over it. a) pfns stored in PROT_NONE entries are
controlled by the OS b) swap based attacks with something interesting in
L1$ colliding with the swap entry is theoretical at best.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-17 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-17 10:56 Pavel Machek
2018-10-17 11:15 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-17 11:32   ` Pavel Machek
2018-10-17 12:17     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-10-17 22:21     ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-18  7:10       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-10-17 14:08 ` Andi Kleen
2018-10-17 14:13   ` Vlastimil Babka

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