From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6BFECDE3D for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2018 07:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CB920869 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2018 07:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="bKnmwr1s" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 66CB920869 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727033AbeJSQCu (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:02:50 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.133]:60156 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726816AbeJSQCu (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:02:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=FKfGf15lTCE2qWYEuxk2CyD205uap9gIjQA3A3fBAT8=; b=bKnmwr1sPeSYq/65hswCppC4h KmMI2m4e4WOTH2G4tbXupbAvzSEXVUyhAX3aesunvpA/fl93JSOxnGyISH1vijKhpA7yqlKvg9y77 /PS7SlAtIsUTRzgl02JBJk/0JE2BXDDa+LDsLeM/gPCQKmo/HH3yiFapqDyqi8llOUYZIcRg7dnQv kybyO26JAZ8GR9/1djjJpojzat1FQEkfDtwlOCnuhp9GIzuKn4oc/ooWqavmGIAtG+7MMIRGP1XDv MioZkX8Pc7Zoj2aN8PsVscQ4nThrcG48Cd9ss2NDXkputfI9FY+GCw1gQgPp8ZfPqT+d6lhgYR5Vh lbrh1MI2A==; Received: from j217100.upc-j.chello.nl ([24.132.217.100] helo=hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.90_1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1gDPfC-0000za-On; Fri, 19 Oct 2018 07:57:42 +0000 Received: by hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6906A2029856B; Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:57:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:57:40 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Tim Chen Cc: Jiri Kosina , Thomas Gleixner , Tom Lendacky , Ingo Molnar , Josh Poimboeuf , Andrea Arcangeli , David Woodhouse , Andi Kleen , Dave Hansen , Casey Schaufler , Asit Mallick , Arjan van de Ven , Jon Masters , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org Subject: Re: [Patch v3 00/13] Provide process property based options to enable Spectre v2 userspace-userspace protection Message-ID: <20181019075740.GY3121@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:59:28AM -0700, Tim Chen wrote: > Application to application exploit is in general difficult due to address > space layout randomization in applications and the need to know an Does the BTB attack on KASLR not work for userspace?