From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_NEOMUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02589C7112C for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 04:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEBC207DD for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 04:04:19 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org EFEBC207DD Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=pengaru.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727432AbeJWMZt (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:25:49 -0400 Received: from shells.gnugeneration.com ([66.240.222.126]:51738 "EHLO shells.gnugeneration.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726885AbeJWMZt (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:25:49 -0400 Received: by shells.gnugeneration.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3690A1A40245; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 21:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 21:04:18 -0700 From: Vito Caputo To: Al Viro Cc: linux-kernel , reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Reiser4 Linux 4.17.19-1 hangs in Google cloud VM, too. Message-ID: <20181023040418.iz7gcph3qha4bkab@shells.gnugeneration.com> References: <20181022101912.3CE2E292B005@huitzilopochtli.metztli-it.com> <20181023033852.GR32577@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20181023034719.tqkvdj2eakh2uh2q@shells.gnugeneration.com> <20181023035425.GS32577@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181023035425.GS32577@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 04:54:25AM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 08:47:19PM -0700, Vito Caputo wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 04:38:52AM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 03:19:12AM -0700, Metztli Information Technology wrote: > > > > I installed reiser4 -enhanced Linux kernel 4.17.19-1 --thus replacing the prior hung reiser4 -patched kernel 4.18.15-1 in the Google Compute Engine (GCE) cloud instance. After less than 24 hours the 4.17.19-1 hung in similar way to the 4.18.15-1. > > > > > > > > Please note that I had been running my custom Metztli Reiser4 Debian Stretch image with reiser4 linux 4.14.20-1 without issues for several months > > > > < https://github.com/Metztli/reiser4-debian-kernel-packaging-4.14.20 > --until I decided to upgrade to newer kernel(s). > > > > > > Er... Does anybody maintain reiser4 these days? I can't recall a single mail > > > along the lines of "such-and-such VFS/VM/scheduler/etc. change would break reiser4" > > > in quite a few years (more than a decade, most likely)... > > > > I've wondered if we should rename reiserfs to something else. As-is, > > it's not likely to attract any developers since it may as well be named > > hitlerfs or something similarly uncomfortable to explain to a > > significant other as what you've been working on. > > Sigh... Godwin Law in action, at the third posting in thread ;-/ > > > That is, assuming it's going to continue to exist in-tree... > > reiser4 has never been in-tree to start with. And name is completely irrelevant - > all I'm refering to is that I have not seen any postings on l-k/fsdevel/etc. > from anybody working on that particular out-of-tree codebase. > > Put it that way - I would expect the bitrot from (apparent) decade-long > inactivity to be a much more serious problem than anything naming-related. Would you say bitrot is more or less likely if a project doesn't attract fresh meat? Regards, Vito Caputo