From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43BFC43441 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 01:29:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790912080F for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 01:29:26 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 790912080F Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=linux-foundation.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2391524AbeKVMGV (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Nov 2018 07:06:21 -0500 Received: from mail.linuxfoundation.org ([140.211.169.12]:48480 "EHLO mail.linuxfoundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1732627AbeKVMGU (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Nov 2018 07:06:20 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (c-24-6-170-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.170.16]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A276E9D; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 01:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:29:19 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Daniel Colascione Cc: linux-kernel , Linux API , Tim Murray , Primiano Tucci , Joel Fernandes , Jonathan Corbet , Mike Rapoport , Vlastimil Babka , Roman Gushchin , Prashant Dhamdhere , "Dennis Zhou (Facebook)" , "Eric W. Biederman" , rostedt@goodmis.org, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@kernel.org, linux@dominikbrodowski.net, jpoimboe@redhat.com, Ard Biesheuvel , Michal Hocko , Stephen Rothwell , ktsanaktsidis@zendesk.com, David Howells , "open list:DOCUMENTATION" Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Add /proc/pid_gen Message-Id: <20181121172919.1b6585e17770d0be7dd8c4d9@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20181121201452.77173-1-dancol@google.com> <20181121205428.165205-1-dancol@google.com> <20181121141220.0e533c1dcb4792480efbf3ff@linux-foundation.org> <20181121145043.fa029f4f91afddc2a10bb81e@linux-foundation.org> <20181121162247.467fcab6c0aca0819a822286@linux-foundation.org> <20181121165741.ef089df784482632c4a66370@linux-foundation.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:08:08 -0800 Daniel Colascione wrote: > Have you done much > retrospective long trace analysis? No. Have you? Of course you have, which is why I and others are dependent upon you to explain why this change is worth adding to Linux. If this thing solves a problem which we expect will not occur for anyone between now and the heat death of the universe then this impacts our decisions. > The patch already describes the problem, the solution, and the way in > which this solution is provided. What more information do you want? I want to know how useful the darn thing is! Why is this so hard? And my thus-far-unanswered question regarding testing the feature is also relevant to that understanding. What does a testcase look like? If we're not actually able to construct one then what does that mean?